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As a former registered user of Kaleidoscope, I have to say it destabilized your system because of the necessary system hacks. What you say about Apple stealing

by bugsy 15y ago

As a former registered user of Kaleidoscope, I have to say it destabilized your system because of the necessary system hacks. What you say about Apple stealing good designs is definitely true (http://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/ http://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/), but Kaleidoscope had other issues.

masklinn 15y ago
> http://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/ http://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/ That's not a case of Apple stealing good design though, that's a case of them buying an Audion competitor. I'm sure Marco would have been far happier if Apple had bought instapaper. Or TapTapTap if Apple had bought Camera+. Hell, that would have been rather cool, it could have given third-party developers an interesting incentive: build something Apple will want to integrate in their core OS, and they'll buy you wholesale.
- AllenKids 15y ago
  The irony is, if Marco opt for acquiring some key patents. Apple most likely would extend an offer. There are ample precedents.
- guywithabike 15y ago
  Marco has talked about this extensively in his "Build and Analyze" podcast. He sees Safari's new reading list as a potential net benefit for Instapaper. "Gateway drug", as he calls it. I agree with him.
  - scott_s 15y ago
    "Oh, really? That's interesting, because honestly? I don't think you guys have a chance." - Steve Jobs, from the above Audion story. The parallels are striking.
- Derbasti 15y ago
  On the "build and analyze" podcast, Marco also noted that even if Apple completely ripped off his business, he would still see it as a great ecosystem. He would simply have to move on and create the next cool thing. He lives by Apple's rule and Apple can take away his business at any time. However, he is making a good living of that system and is happy with that.

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As a former registered user of Kaleidoscope, I have to say it destabilized your system because of the necessary system hacks. What you say about Apple stealing

by bugsy 15y ago

masklinn 15y ago
> http://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/ http://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/ That's not a case of Apple stealing good design though, that's a case of them buying an Audion competitor. I'm sure Marco would have been far happier if Apple had bought instapaper. Or TapTapTap if Apple had bought Camera+. Hell, that would have been rather cool, it could have given third-party developers an interesting incentive: build something Apple will want to integrate in their core OS, and they'll buy you wholesale.
- AllenKids 15y ago
  The irony is, if Marco opt for acquiring some key patents. Apple most likely would extend an offer. There are ample precedents.
- guywithabike 15y ago
  Marco has talked about this extensively in his "Build and Analyze" podcast. He sees Safari's new reading list as a potential net benefit for Instapaper. "Gateway drug", as he calls it. I agree with him.
  - scott_s 15y ago
    "Oh, really? That's interesting, because honestly? I don't think you guys have a chance." - Steve Jobs, from the above Audion story. The parallels are striking.
- Derbasti 15y ago
  On the "build and analyze" podcast, Marco also noted that even if Apple completely ripped off his business, he would still see it as a great ecosystem. He would simply have to move on and create the next cool thing. He lives by Apple's rule and Apple can take away his business at any time. However, he is making a good living of that system and is happy with that.