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I presume the parent poster is referring to things like housing cost assistance (called Section 8 in the US), Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) a

I presume the parent poster is referring to things like housing cost assistance (called Section 8 in the US), Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), social security, Medicare/Medicaid government assisted health coverage programs, disability financial assistance programs and other socioeconomic-hardship assistance programs. Not to mention funding schools, universities, or government research grants. That's among the things that get called communism or socialism here in the US.

WalterBright 6y ago
The government providing a product or service is socialism. The public school system certainly qualifies as socialism.
- wongarsu 6y ago
  The entire point of a government is to provide services; including but not limited to transport infrastructure, contract dispute settlement (civil courts), protection of life and property (police, criminal justice system, sewers, firefighting, public health, etc.) and education. If all of that is socialism then I don't know a country that isn't socialist. Maybe Somalia in the 90s. Of course words can mean whatever we want, but that definition doesn't sound useful.
  - WalterBright 6y ago
    > The entire point of a government is to provide services Of course. That doesn't mean the services it provides aren't socialism. For a country on balance to be socialist, more than have of its goods and services would need to be provided by the government. > that definition doesn't sound useful. It's exactly what socialism is: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." The first definition when googling "definition of socialism". Government is the means by which the community effects socialism.
  - wtf_is_up 6y ago
    The entire point of government is to prevent coercion.

WalterBright 6y ago

The government providing a product or service is socialism. The public school system certainly qualifies as socialism.

wongarsu 6y ago
The entire point of a government is to provide services; including but not limited to transport infrastructure, contract dispute settlement (civil courts), protection of life and property (police, criminal justice system, sewers, firefighting, public health, etc.) and education. If all of that is socialism then I don't know a country that isn't socialist. Maybe Somalia in the 90s. Of course words can mean whatever we want, but that definition doesn't sound useful.
- WalterBright 6y ago
  > The entire point of a government is to provide services Of course. That doesn't mean the services it provides aren't socialism. For a country on balance to be socialist, more than have of its goods and services would need to be provided by the government. > that definition doesn't sound useful. It's exactly what socialism is: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." The first definition when googling "definition of socialism". Government is the means by which the community effects socialism.
- wtf_is_up 6y ago
  The entire point of government is to prevent coercion.