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> Wow... Biden's stance is essentially it's a cultural difference. This is a prime example of how taking specific cuts of quotes can lead to wildly misleading

> Wow... Biden's stance is essentially it's a cultural difference. This is a prime example of how taking specific cuts of quotes can lead to wildly misleading conclusions. This is what he actually said: "I point out to him no American president can be sustained as a president if he doesn’t reflect the values of the United States, and so the idea I’m not going to speak out against what he’s doing in Hong Kong, what he’s doing with the Uighurs in western mountains of China, and Taiwan, trying to end the One China policy by making it forceful … I said, and, by the, he said, he – he gets it. Culturally there are different norms that each country and their leaders are expected to follow." And as you can see, he's saying that as POTUS, he must speak out against it because he is POTUS; that the US has different cultural norms than China and that we don't condone these things.

reedjosh 6y ago
Thanks for posting the whole thing. Kinda hard to follow in the video.
99_00 6y ago
>And as you can see, he's saying that as POTUS, he must speak out against it because he is POTUS; that the US has different cultural norms than China and that we don't condone these things. But what is he saying about China's cultural norms? Your statement doesn't contradict this statement: > Wow... Biden's stance is essentially it's a cultural difference. They are focusing on what Biden thinks are Chinese cultural norms, and you are focusing on what Biden thinks are American cultural norms. The two statements aren't contradictory but also aren't complete. Ultimately the press should ask for clarification and Biden should clarify. We shouldn't have to interpret like this. To my knowledge that hasn't happened.
- thereare5lights 6y ago
  > Your statement doesn't contradict this statement: That statement is claiming that Biden says we shouldn't say anything because their treatment is just a "cultural difference". Biden's whole statement literally says the opposite.
  - 99_00 6y ago
    And what is Biden saying about how the Chinese leader should act based on history, expectations, and cultural norms?
syshum 6y ago
>>that the US has different cultural norms than China and that we don't condone these things. No, what is he is doing is reassuring Xi that while he may have to speak out publicly about how many US Citizens will disagree culturally with china, rest assured that while He is president there will be no action.
- thereare5lights 6y ago
  This is mind reading. I don't do that.
CountDrewku 6y ago
What are you high on? I have no idea how you can twist that into saying it's ok he doesn't like it. The hypocrisy of people condoning this when if Trump has said anything remotely similar they'd want him to hang. He's also passing plenty more China friendly orders but sure he's definitely not "condoning" it. This is what's called "speaking out both sides of your mouth". This is clearly Biden saying we don't like these things in the US but I'm not gonna do a damn thing to stop China from continuing on with genocide because it's their culture.So, he will continue to pander to his moronic supporters and they'll eat it up while he does nothing.
- dang 6y ago
  Can you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? This one combines personal attack, political flamewar, and nationalistic flamewar. We're trying to avoid all that kind of thing here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - CountDrewku 6y ago
    Then maybe you should consider banning political posts? Did you also reply to the individual defending our senile president who's condoning genocide? Allowing political posts and then turning around and telling people they can only comment in a specific way on them seems a bit counterproductive. If you want to point out the fact that I called him high I guess you have somewhat of a leg to stand on for personal attacks. The other two things you listed as "flame war" material are literally no different than his comment defending Biden.

reedjosh 6y ago

Thanks for posting the whole thing. Kinda hard to follow in the video.

99_00 6y ago

>And as you can see, he's saying that as POTUS, he must speak out against it because he is POTUS; that the US has different cultural norms than China and that we don't condone these things. But what is he saying about China's cultural norms? Your statement doesn't contradict this statement: > Wow... Biden's stance is essentially it's a cultural difference. They are focusing on what Biden thinks are Chinese cultural norms, and you are focusing on what Biden thinks are American cultural norms. The two statements aren't contradictory but also aren't complete. Ultimately the press should ask for clarification and Biden should clarify. We shouldn't have to interpret like this. To my knowledge that hasn't happened.

thereare5lights 6y ago
> Your statement doesn't contradict this statement: That statement is claiming that Biden says we shouldn't say anything because their treatment is just a "cultural difference". Biden's whole statement literally says the opposite.
- 99_00 6y ago
  And what is Biden saying about how the Chinese leader should act based on history, expectations, and cultural norms?

syshum 6y ago

>>that the US has different cultural norms than China and that we don't condone these things. No, what is he is doing is reassuring Xi that while he may have to speak out publicly about how many US Citizens will disagree culturally with china, rest assured that while He is president there will be no action.

thereare5lights 6y ago
This is mind reading. I don't do that.

CountDrewku 6y ago

What are you high on? I have no idea how you can twist that into saying it's ok he doesn't like it. The hypocrisy of people condoning this when if Trump has said anything remotely similar they'd want him to hang. He's also passing plenty more China friendly orders but sure he's definitely not "condoning" it. This is what's called "speaking out both sides of your mouth". This is clearly Biden saying we don't like these things in the US but I'm not gonna do a damn thing to stop China from continuing on with genocide because it's their culture.So, he will continue to pander to his moronic supporters and they'll eat it up while he does nothing.

dang 6y ago
Can you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? This one combines personal attack, political flamewar, and nationalistic flamewar. We're trying to avoid all that kind of thing here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- CountDrewku 6y ago
  Then maybe you should consider banning political posts? Did you also reply to the individual defending our senile president who's condoning genocide? Allowing political posts and then turning around and telling people they can only comment in a specific way on them seems a bit counterproductive. If you want to point out the fact that I called him high I guess you have somewhat of a leg to stand on for personal attacks. The other two things you listed as "flame war" material are literally no different than his comment defending Biden.