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There is no way to avoid another Cold War. A hot war is impossible. I am glad that the Soviet Union ceased to exist. I will be glad with China being contained.

There is no way to avoid another Cold War. A hot war is impossible. I am glad that the Soviet Union ceased to exist. I will be glad with China being contained. I will also be glad in a multi-lateral world where America does not go unchecked and can be held up by others to its ideals.

cbozeman 6y ago
A hot war is most certainly not impossible. Just because nuclear weapons might be off the table doesn't mean conventional bombs aren't. And frankly, even nuclear weapons might not be off the table fully. Desperation leads people to do strange things. China really is a sort of "early 1900s Germany" stage, which is rather frightening.
- federona 6y ago
  China is in some ways like pre-WWI Germany in that it does not have an empire and everyone else does so it wants one to. But Chinese are not starving due to sanctions and have not lost a war, etc. Chinese are doing well. China is just flexing its muscle because it can. That is all. Not because it needs to or that it's people are psychologically in fascism mode.
  - redis_mlc 6y ago
    What you wrote demonstrates a superficial understanding. > But Chinese are not starving due to sanctions They are starving due to natural (floods and locusts) and manmade (dams) disasters. Pre-corona, China imported 30% of its food, and today it's over 50%. Mining their few harbors would starve half of their population to death in 6 months. China has basically no welfare programs for non-CCP citizens. If Trump's policies are continued by Biden, China will also suffer financially and technology-wise. Trump's policies would have crumbled China in 4-8 years. > Not because it needs to or that it's people are psychologically in fascism mode. The CCP has to flex because of ideology. It has been in a quiet war with the US since Mao in the 1950's, and it needs to usurp and destroy the US to maintain absolute hold on power - there cannot be an alternative for people to compare to the CCP in their minds. That means an invasion of Taiwan ASAP and war with the US after that (China has more military ships now than the US, which is a certain sign of preparation for war.)
  - dmix 6y ago
    Bingo, comfortable upwardly mobile populations aren’t too friendly to any sort of serious war. Let alone total A majority in an agitated state that is being repressed or prodded (realistically or not) by other power blocs is what is worrying. Even ideological extremism most just happens locally. Like the Russian socialist Revolutions and countless jihads.
- Dirlewanger 6y ago
  There's also the whole frightening frame of thought that as people who were alive to see nuclear detonations being performed in the 50s/60s continue to die off, as a society we're going to slowly forget what makes nuclear weapons so awesome (in the original definition of the word), and the willpower around their restraint will slowly be eroded away until it's too late.
csomar 6y ago
A hot war is very likely. Why do you think everyone is building armies, weapons and trying to get nuclear toys (Iran). Just look up what triggered world war I and II.
fullshark 6y ago
Cold War already started years ago, the leadership in the west was just was too naive and arrogant to see it.
Mitzi 6y ago
This might be a bit naive but doesn't a cold war by definition imply the possibility of it getting hot? Or in other words: Isn't a cold war that is impossible to get hot just peace?

cbozeman 6y ago

A hot war is most certainly not impossible. Just because nuclear weapons might be off the table doesn't mean conventional bombs aren't. And frankly, even nuclear weapons might not be off the table fully. Desperation leads people to do strange things. China really is a sort of "early 1900s Germany" stage, which is rather frightening.

federona 6y ago
China is in some ways like pre-WWI Germany in that it does not have an empire and everyone else does so it wants one to. But Chinese are not starving due to sanctions and have not lost a war, etc. Chinese are doing well. China is just flexing its muscle because it can. That is all. Not because it needs to or that it's people are psychologically in fascism mode.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  What you wrote demonstrates a superficial understanding. > But Chinese are not starving due to sanctions They are starving due to natural (floods and locusts) and manmade (dams) disasters. Pre-corona, China imported 30% of its food, and today it's over 50%. Mining their few harbors would starve half of their population to death in 6 months. China has basically no welfare programs for non-CCP citizens. If Trump's policies are continued by Biden, China will also suffer financially and technology-wise. Trump's policies would have crumbled China in 4-8 years. > Not because it needs to or that it's people are psychologically in fascism mode. The CCP has to flex because of ideology. It has been in a quiet war with the US since Mao in the 1950's, and it needs to usurp and destroy the US to maintain absolute hold on power - there cannot be an alternative for people to compare to the CCP in their minds. That means an invasion of Taiwan ASAP and war with the US after that (China has more military ships now than the US, which is a certain sign of preparation for war.)
- dmix 6y ago
  Bingo, comfortable upwardly mobile populations aren’t too friendly to any sort of serious war. Let alone total A majority in an agitated state that is being repressed or prodded (realistically or not) by other power blocs is what is worrying. Even ideological extremism most just happens locally. Like the Russian socialist Revolutions and countless jihads.
Dirlewanger 6y ago
There's also the whole frightening frame of thought that as people who were alive to see nuclear detonations being performed in the 50s/60s continue to die off, as a society we're going to slowly forget what makes nuclear weapons so awesome (in the original definition of the word), and the willpower around their restraint will slowly be eroded away until it's too late.

csomar 6y ago

A hot war is very likely. Why do you think everyone is building armies, weapons and trying to get nuclear toys (Iran). Just look up what triggered world war I and II.

fullshark 6y ago

Cold War already started years ago, the leadership in the west was just was too naive and arrogant to see it.

Mitzi 6y ago

This might be a bit naive but doesn't a cold war by definition imply the possibility of it getting hot? Or in other words: Isn't a cold war that is impossible to get hot just peace?