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Can you point me toward other threads about other parts of the world where a particular ethnicity is singled out in a negative light for immigrating? I'll take

Can you point me toward other threads about other parts of the world where a particular ethnicity is singled out in a negative light for immigrating? I'll take back everything I said if you can find ONE.

woah 6y ago
Han Chinese in Xinjiang today? Anglo Americans immigrating to Western North America in the 1800's? Germany's failed attempt to immigrate to eastern Europe in the 1940's? All of these are rightfully singled out in a negative light.
- revnode 6y ago
  Here is the link to today's discussion of what is happening in China: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26253886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26253886 There is not a single mention of Han Chinese immigration to Xinjiang, in either positive or negative light. The Jews who immigrated to Israel were fleeing persecution at home and you chose to attack them. That is shameful and you should be ashamed of yourself. All people have the right to live wherever they choose, whether they be Jews, Arabs, or any ethnicity. Singling people out based on their ethnicity ... well, that's just racist, isn't it?
core-questions 6y ago
There's a vast difference between legitimate, legal, welcomed immigration and invasion sanctioned by foreign states that results in the creation of an occupied territory, but you already knew that.
- marshmallow_12 6y ago
  colonies? (like, every single one of them, past and present)
  - core-questions 6y ago
    I mean, if you think that a land that is filled with 20th century cities and has a documented history of being highly populated for thousands of years is the same thing as a continent that is practically empty, I don't know what to tell you.
    - marshmallow_12 6y ago
      South America had cities. (not 20th century, admittedly). The settlement of south africa involved murdering a large amount of natives... I'm not not sure what to tell you!
      - core-questions 6y ago
        Wait, you said South America and South Africa. The former certainly had cities; the latter was mostly wasteland with some amount of nomadic peoples who couldn't stay in one place because living off the land in one place was impossible without agriculture. Vastly different situation. Either way, sounds like another case of wrongdoing that doesn't excuse anyone else's actions. What is my takeaway from this supposed to be? Murdering Palestinians with sniper rifles and lobbing bombs at them is OK because someone a hundred years ago elsewhere did something entirely unrelated that was evil? Or that colonialism is just generally OK overall and should be fine? Where's the nuance, man?

woah 6y ago

Han Chinese in Xinjiang today? Anglo Americans immigrating to Western North America in the 1800's? Germany's failed attempt to immigrate to eastern Europe in the 1940's? All of these are rightfully singled out in a negative light.

revnode 6y ago
Here is the link to today's discussion of what is happening in China: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26253886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26253886 There is not a single mention of Han Chinese immigration to Xinjiang, in either positive or negative light. The Jews who immigrated to Israel were fleeing persecution at home and you chose to attack them. That is shameful and you should be ashamed of yourself. All people have the right to live wherever they choose, whether they be Jews, Arabs, or any ethnicity. Singling people out based on their ethnicity ... well, that's just racist, isn't it?

core-questions 6y ago

There's a vast difference between legitimate, legal, welcomed immigration and invasion sanctioned by foreign states that results in the creation of an occupied territory, but you already knew that.

marshmallow_12 6y ago
colonies? (like, every single one of them, past and present)
- core-questions 6y ago
  I mean, if you think that a land that is filled with 20th century cities and has a documented history of being highly populated for thousands of years is the same thing as a continent that is practically empty, I don't know what to tell you.
  - marshmallow_12 6y ago
    South America had cities. (not 20th century, admittedly). The settlement of south africa involved murdering a large amount of natives... I'm not not sure what to tell you!
    - core-questions 6y ago
      Wait, you said South America and South Africa. The former certainly had cities; the latter was mostly wasteland with some amount of nomadic peoples who couldn't stay in one place because living off the land in one place was impossible without agriculture. Vastly different situation. Either way, sounds like another case of wrongdoing that doesn't excuse anyone else's actions. What is my takeaway from this supposed to be? Murdering Palestinians with sniper rifles and lobbing bombs at them is OK because someone a hundred years ago elsewhere did something entirely unrelated that was evil? Or that colonialism is just generally OK overall and should be fine? Where's the nuance, man?