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> but stupid politics I wouldn't call 800k Israelis living on Palestinian land "stupid politics". That's a bit dismissive of the issue, don't you think?

by Udik 6y ago

dang 6y ago
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Udik 6y ago
  I didn't mean to criticise, I actually appreciate the spirit of the comment I replied to. But I do think- and wanted to point out- that waving it off as "stupid politics" is maybe a form of self-deception, when you live in a country that hugely profits from the situation.
  - accounted 6y ago
    It really is. Like "haha, we just took over your country, destroyed your homes, killed your families, and called your land ours, gee those politics are ridiculous!"
    - dang 6y ago
      Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN. We're trying to avoid sinking deeper into hell here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - inglor 6y ago
    I think you are barking up the wrong tree. First when you take our extremely complicated political situation and shove it into a 1d box it comes off as both condescending and paternalistic. The situation is complicated and difficult, I am not denying there is a problem. Second - I am volunteering in organizations like GSG, I am not for the west bank settlements and I vote left. That’s mostly irrelevant though - since I am not “Israel”, like the OP I am just one human living my life out trying to be better. Third - the “complicated politics” in this case does not refer to West Bank settlements. It refers to my inability to hire, mentor, collaborate and befriend Gaza engineers easily. I am a hacker, I am not trying to solve “peace in the Middle East” and I think I am entitled to feel frustrated by this :)
poweronselftest 6y ago
Wondering why you think 800k Israelis live on Palestinian land and not 5-6 million?

> but stupid politics I wouldn't call 800k Israelis living on Palestinian land "stupid politics". That's a bit dismissive of the issue, don't you think?

by Udik 6y ago

> but stupid politics I wouldn't call 800k Israelis living on Palestinian land "stupid politics". That's a bit dismissive of the issue, don't you think?

dang 6y ago

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Udik 6y ago
I didn't mean to criticise, I actually appreciate the spirit of the comment I replied to. But I do think- and wanted to point out- that waving it off as "stupid politics" is maybe a form of self-deception, when you live in a country that hugely profits from the situation.
- accounted 6y ago
  It really is. Like "haha, we just took over your country, destroyed your homes, killed your families, and called your land ours, gee those politics are ridiculous!"
  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN. We're trying to avoid sinking deeper into hell here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- inglor 6y ago
  I think you are barking up the wrong tree. First when you take our extremely complicated political situation and shove it into a 1d box it comes off as both condescending and paternalistic. The situation is complicated and difficult, I am not denying there is a problem. Second - I am volunteering in organizations like GSG, I am not for the west bank settlements and I vote left. That’s mostly irrelevant though - since I am not “Israel”, like the OP I am just one human living my life out trying to be better. Third - the “complicated politics” in this case does not refer to West Bank settlements. It refers to my inability to hire, mentor, collaborate and befriend Gaza engineers easily. I am a hacker, I am not trying to solve “peace in the Middle East” and I think I am entitled to feel frustrated by this :)

poweronselftest 6y ago

Wondering why you think 800k Israelis live on Palestinian land and not 5-6 million?