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I can see a future where office work is so rare that it's considered to be a major benefit only afforded by large corporations.
by arkitaip 6y ago
I can see a future where office work is so rare that it's considered to be a major benefit only afforded by large corporations.
- samr71 6y agoThis will almost certainly be bad for most everyone but company shareholders, unfortunately.
- almost_usual 6y agoWhich most tech workers who get paid in RSUs are?
- samr71 6y agoUntil they're replaced with a team in Jakarta or Dhaka making 10% of what they made.
- almost_usual 6y agoYou really believe an in office work environment was the only thing preventing this from happening? Top talent gets paid the most.
- samr71 6y agoIf a tech company is sourcing engineers in an office work environment, they need to pay salaries competitive for the location of said office. (You can find great engineers in Jakarta, but you have to relocate them to SV and pay SV rates) If everything is remote work, you hire the same worker, and pay them Jakarta rates (you can sub Jakarta for any very-low COL city).
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- tdfx 6y agoIt wasn't possible before because companies couldn't figure out how to effectively manage a workforce remotely. Now that they've been forced to learn, this will be explored with renewed vigor. There are a lot of highly talented foreign workers who will work for a fraction of US salaries. Companies that are good about integrating foreign workers into their existing teams are already reaping the benefits of this. Fortunately for Western tech workers, the majority of companies are terrible at integrating their offshore workers and have very outdated concepts of "outsourcing" where trusted local workers send robotic tasks to offshore teams being paid ridiculously low salaries. This model will continue to fail and should slow the enthusiasm for offshoring for a lot of companies.
- maya24 6y agoTime zones still matter. Which is a huge deterrent for being productive more so than being in the same office.
- redisman 6y agoThey also help you have around the clock coverage without people waking up at 4am to see if the alert is serious or not
- heavyset_go 6y agoThis was possible before COVID and it didn't happen.
- astrea 6y agoOutsourcing is and has been a massive trend for years. So much so that they have a word for it!
- alteria 6y agoBut they also have to live without an office and may not have meaningful stakes to make the tradeoff worth it for most.
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- tshaddox 6y agoWhich again is only large corporations, right?
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- setpatchaddress 6y agoWhy would it be a benefit?
- tshaddox 6y agoBecause you don’t have to cram 2 new desks into the expensive 1 bedroom apartment you share with your partner.
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- yao420 6y agoWell that’s offset by the fact you no longer have to get a small one bedroom near a large city downtown. Without the commute suburbs or smaller cities offer much bigger and better spaces for less. Why pay $4.5k for that one bedroom in SOMA when you can get a 4 bedroom home in Sacramento for the same price.
- samr71 6y agoI can't help but feel that this is going backwards. Cities are effective engines for value generation. Being in a city is valuable due to network effects, density, and overall efficiency that suburbs lack. Increased urbanization has gone hand-in-hand with increased prosperity for centuries. People don't pay $4.5k for a one bedroom in SOMA (just) to be close to the office. It's too early too say if the historic value of cities will be replaced by the internet, IMO. YC makes each batch move to SV for a reason.
- ghaff 6y agoSV isn't a city; it's mostly suburban sprawl. In most metro areas, you can get to reasonable property prices while still being in the gravitational well of a city even if you wouldn't want to commute into the downtown every day day.
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- agumonkey 6y agosocially it's gonna be weird seeing all these business center full of empty skyscrapers