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Does one think that a knife fight in real life would be easy? Anyone with even a basic level of martial arts training knows that if a knife comes out, someone i

Does one think that a knife fight in real life would be easy? Anyone with even a basic level of martial arts training knows that if a knife comes out, someone is getting cut. I would say that most people instinctually know that if someone pulls a knife, this is a situation they want out of. But to answer your question, many martial artists train with weapons. It's fairly easy to use a dummy knife to simulate real combat without harming anyone. And many fighters throughout history would have trained with weapons to simulate real combat. I cannot speak for these knife techniques in particular because that was never my specialty, but there are plenty of legitimate techniques out there. In terms of what they are teaching in self defense classes, I find that a very mixed bag. Some focus strictly on tricks that seem cool to the untrained, but are hard to pull off in real life without a great deal of practice, while some instructors take a more realistic approach (be aware, have a plan, use a minimum of physical technique to extricate yourself as quickly as possible)

jlangemeier 6y ago
This exactly; most of my martial arts training has included the caveat of "try and de-escalate" as a form of neutralizing the weapon/target, including just talking with them, there are a myriad of ways to talk someone down from stabby-stabby or shooty-shooty unless they are intent on that purpose alone (and you're pretty screwed at that point without a lot of training), so verbal de-escalation techniques are almost more important than a disarm technique, which should be an absolute last resort.
hutzlibu 6y ago
"Anyone with even a basic level of martial arts training knows that if a knife comes out, someone is getting cut." I think that is a bit overdramatic. I would say, most of the time when a knifes come, nothing happens, except for exchange of bad words. (seen that) And a professional would not show his knife. The great advantage and danger of a knife is, that it is a hidden weapon. Revealed (and used) only in the right moment, if necessary - as a surprise. And self-defense against a knife. Well, the basics are actually quite easy - if you see a enemy with a knife - grab a stick. Or a chair. Or a rock. Keep distance. Only if you are really superior trained and you face against a drunken idiot for example, about to do something stupid against someone else - then you should consider doing some of your special moves to disarm. But talking them out of it, should be prefered.
- stinkytaco 6y ago
  > I think that is a bit overdramatic. I would say, most of the time when a knifes come, nothing happens, except for exchange of bad words. (seen that) I guess I should have used the words "attacked with a knife". My point is that movie combat where an armed attacker is quickly disarmed and detained is quite rare. If a weapon gets involved in combat, someone's getting hurt. Even if you grab a chair, etc. it's still likely one of you are getting hurt, even if you win. Which brings us back around to the core point that I think we agree on: don't get involved in a knife fight, or really any fight if it can be avoided.
  - hutzlibu 6y ago
    Yeah, I actually know what you meant and it was maybe a bit pedantic from me. So, to take that further: "if in a close combat situation a knive gets drawn, it is very likely that someone will get cut" would have been the wordy formal correct version ;)

jlangemeier 6y ago

This exactly; most of my martial arts training has included the caveat of "try and de-escalate" as a form of neutralizing the weapon/target, including just talking with them, there are a myriad of ways to talk someone down from stabby-stabby or shooty-shooty unless they are intent on that purpose alone (and you're pretty screwed at that point without a lot of training), so verbal de-escalation techniques are almost more important than a disarm technique, which should be an absolute last resort.

hutzlibu 6y ago

"Anyone with even a basic level of martial arts training knows that if a knife comes out, someone is getting cut." I think that is a bit overdramatic. I would say, most of the time when a knifes come, nothing happens, except for exchange of bad words. (seen that) And a professional would not show his knife. The great advantage and danger of a knife is, that it is a hidden weapon. Revealed (and used) only in the right moment, if necessary - as a surprise. And self-defense against a knife. Well, the basics are actually quite easy - if you see a enemy with a knife - grab a stick. Or a chair. Or a rock. Keep distance. Only if you are really superior trained and you face against a drunken idiot for example, about to do something stupid against someone else - then you should consider doing some of your special moves to disarm. But talking them out of it, should be prefered.

stinkytaco 6y ago
> I think that is a bit overdramatic. I would say, most of the time when a knifes come, nothing happens, except for exchange of bad words. (seen that) I guess I should have used the words "attacked with a knife". My point is that movie combat where an armed attacker is quickly disarmed and detained is quite rare. If a weapon gets involved in combat, someone's getting hurt. Even if you grab a chair, etc. it's still likely one of you are getting hurt, even if you win. Which brings us back around to the core point that I think we agree on: don't get involved in a knife fight, or really any fight if it can be avoided.
- hutzlibu 6y ago
  Yeah, I actually know what you meant and it was maybe a bit pedantic from me. So, to take that further: "if in a close combat situation a knive gets drawn, it is very likely that someone will get cut" would have been the wordy formal correct version ;)