He then however goes on to describe a real problem that hurt his crew - safety as a talisman. I fight that in my company by being a bit flippant with ladder sa

He then however goes on to describe a real problem that hurt his crew - safety as a talisman. I fight that in my company by being a bit flippant with ladder safety to remind them of the danger of getting complacent. "Use the ladder safely while I'm looking at you, but after about an hour get really complacent and over-reach and fall off and die."