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I submitted this a few days ago without any traction: https://joanielemercier.com/the-problem-of-cryptoart/ https://joanielemercier.com/the-problem-of-cryptoart

I submitted this a few days ago without any traction: https://joanielemercier.com/the-problem-of-cryptoart/ https://joanielemercier.com/the-problem-of-cryptoart/ Honestly I can’t do anything but shake my head in disapproval about crypto-art (and crypto currency in general) when it involves wasting so much energy.

christiansakai 6y ago
PoS blockchain like Cardano network now only consumes an energy as big as a household. They already have NFT implemented.
- casi 6y ago
  Cardano doesnt even have smart contracts yet, how have they implemented nfts? otherwise yes, energy usage will be dropping massively on most networks with pos upgrades.
  - christiansakai 6y ago
    Cardano has a different approach of smart contract than Ethereum. For example, in Cardano, any tokens will be treated as native assets (except with the ability to vote in Cardano network, which you need ADA), so no need smart contract.
    - rkalla 6y ago
      This is all coming this month/next, but at the time of posting this it is not live.
      - christiansakai 6y ago
        Sorry I guess I have to clarify, it is implemented on test net.
  - projektfu 6y ago
    Algorand does, and also has fungible and non-fungible assets in its layer-1 protocol.
- CositaS 6y ago
  I always see people point to 'just round the corner' future Proof of Stake systems when the energy waste topic comes up, but it seems like there are still a lot of big unsolved challenges with that, as well as new problems introduced by it. As long as there's no actual widespread fully working currency using only PoS, it's a bit like justifying the emissions from flying by pointing to experimental solar powered aircraft, and saying all flights will be solar powered any day now.
  - christiansakai 6y ago
    Not sure what you mean, there are already blockchains out there using only PoS... Cardano already uses PoS
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peter_l_downs 6y ago
Celo is the EVM and uses proof-of-stake, has actual ERC721 and ERC1155 capabilities, but the market hasn't built the frontends to it (opensea, rarible, zora, foundation, etc.) and is still entirely on top of Ethereum.
donjigweed 6y ago
Watching TV at home "wastes energy." Going out to dinner "wastes energy." Doing anything except working on a cure for cancer "wastes energy." In fact, even people working on a cure for cancer or a covid vaccine will only see the fruits of their righteous labor used to enable millions to....waste energy. This is literally the worst argument against crypto.
companyhen 6y ago
You can mint NFT's on Kusama for pennies, a Proof of Stake network by the original CTO and co-founder of Ethereum Dr. Gavin Wood http://kodadot.xyz/ http://kodadot.xyz/

christiansakai 6y ago

PoS blockchain like Cardano network now only consumes an energy as big as a household. They already have NFT implemented.

casi 6y ago
Cardano doesnt even have smart contracts yet, how have they implemented nfts? otherwise yes, energy usage will be dropping massively on most networks with pos upgrades.
- christiansakai 6y ago
  Cardano has a different approach of smart contract than Ethereum. For example, in Cardano, any tokens will be treated as native assets (except with the ability to vote in Cardano network, which you need ADA), so no need smart contract.
  - rkalla 6y ago
    This is all coming this month/next, but at the time of posting this it is not live.
    - christiansakai 6y ago
      Sorry I guess I have to clarify, it is implemented on test net.
- projektfu 6y ago
  Algorand does, and also has fungible and non-fungible assets in its layer-1 protocol.
CositaS 6y ago
I always see people point to 'just round the corner' future Proof of Stake systems when the energy waste topic comes up, but it seems like there are still a lot of big unsolved challenges with that, as well as new problems introduced by it. As long as there's no actual widespread fully working currency using only PoS, it's a bit like justifying the emissions from flying by pointing to experimental solar powered aircraft, and saying all flights will be solar powered any day now.
- christiansakai 6y ago
  Not sure what you mean, there are already blockchains out there using only PoS... Cardano already uses PoS
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peter_l_downs 6y ago

Celo is the EVM and uses proof-of-stake, has actual ERC721 and ERC1155 capabilities, but the market hasn't built the frontends to it (opensea, rarible, zora, foundation, etc.) and is still entirely on top of Ethereum.

donjigweed 6y ago

Watching TV at home "wastes energy." Going out to dinner "wastes energy." Doing anything except working on a cure for cancer "wastes energy." In fact, even people working on a cure for cancer or a covid vaccine will only see the fruits of their righteous labor used to enable millions to....waste energy. This is literally the worst argument against crypto.

companyhen 6y ago

You can mint NFT's on Kusama for pennies, a Proof of Stake network by the original CTO and co-founder of Ethereum Dr. Gavin Wood http://kodadot.xyz/ http://kodadot.xyz/