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Climate change exists. It has always existed. Most of the northern hemisphere used to be covered with ice. Prior to that, it wasn't covered with ice. Is it
by linuxftw 6y ago
Climate change exists. It has always existed. Most of the northern hemisphere used to be covered with ice. Prior to that, it wasn't covered with ice.
Is it a serious problem? No. Is the Earth getting warmer because of human activity? Probably not.
Things that are a serious problem: Pollution, pesticides, increasing water scarcity due to population growth in (already) arid areas, loss of biodiversity due to a number of things, the corporate take over of government and society, over criminalization of society with unjust laws, endless wars where western nations kill the inhabitants of non-western nations.
There's much to be concerned about. Climate change is last on the list.
- sep_field 6y agoWillful blindness packaged as cleverness won't save you. Climate models show that we only have about 10-15 more years before complete climate collapse. Welcome to the anthropocene.
- derg 6y ago> Climate models show that we only have about 10-15 more years before complete climate collapse. and here i am, waking up every day putting on my stupid pants and my stupid hoodie and meandering to my stupid laptop to make stupid little websites. like normally i'm just going with the flow with this knowledge that the future is gonna suck but somedays like today it hits harder than it usually does when i see it written out this way
- Karunamon 6y agoAt the risk of excessive snark, are those the same models that predicted the ice caps melting in the 90s? Speaking purely historically, climate models and scientists predicting global catastrophe has happened multiple times, actual global catastrophe has not. Were this issue not highly politicized, I could openly question the implications of kind of failures without qualification :/
- sep_field 6y agoYou might want to check the news. The arctic has melted, temperatures have topped 100 degrees. The sea ice, where still present, is less than an inch thick. Commercial shipping is happening in winter without the aid of icebreaking ships. The Polar Vortex has gotten completely destabilized, sending the Jet Stream careening deep into southern latitudes (which is why Texas froze). This is ecological doom knocking at our door. There are multiple, overlapping positive feedback loops occurring. You really should be paying attention and not just smugly pretending that you can "own the libs".
- Karunamon 6y agoSee, that last insult is exactly what I was hoping to avoid. "Hey, this particular field of endeavor has a poor track record of making bad predictions of doom" is a verifiable fact, and you just turned it into partisan shit-flinging. Nobody's attempting to own anyone here, but thanks for lowering the standard of discourse substantially. >Temperatures have topped 100 at the North Pole No they have not. The highest temperature ever recorded was 56. Cite your sources. sep_field silently edited their post to change "North Pole" to "the arctic".
- Cd00d 6y agoThis is annoying bickering, made only worse by the fact that you're both quoting temperatures without sources or units.
- sep_field 6y agohttps://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/it-hit-100-f-in-the-arctic-circle-this-weekend/ar-BB15SpJD https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/it-hit-100-f-in-the-... Your facts aren't worth the faeces they were smeared on the wall with.
- adrianN 6y ago> Is the Earth getting warmer because of human activity? Probably not This is just wrong. You are free to argue that 3° warming is no big deal, like one of your sibling comments does, but saying that humans are not responsible for climate change is factually wrong.
- linuxftw 6y agoI can say what every I want, because I believe (anthropogenic warming) climate science is a highly politicized pile of nonsense.
- sep_field 6y agoGo ahead, put those fingers in your ears. You'll be starving soon enough along with the rest of us. You might want to check the news. The arctic has melted, temperatures have topped 100 degrees. The sea ice, where still present, is less than an inch thick. Commercial shipping is happening in winter without the aid of icebreaking ships. The Polar Vortex has gotten completely destabilized, sending the Jet Stream careening deep into southern latitudes (which is why Texas froze). This is ecological doom knocking at our door. There are multiple, overlapping positive feedback loops occurring. You really should be paying attention and not just smugly pretending that you can "own the libs".
- adrianN 6y agoYou can of course continue to believe whatever you like. You will most likely just have a harder time convincing other people of your beliefs if they are in contradiction with reality.
- linuxftw 6y agoBy reality, do you mean how the Earth was already warming, as evidenced by the fact that North America is no longer under miles of ice? Or is there a different reality where that warming magically stopped?
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