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>A 2016 review that looked at research on children sharing not just a room but a bed with one or more of their parents found a high prevalence in many Asian cou

>A 2016 review that looked at research on children sharing not just a room but a bed with one or more of their parents found a high prevalence in many Asian countries: Let me guess: there is a high correlation between sharing your room and poverty levels?

pj1115 6y ago
I think you'd find some evidence for historical poverty being one factor of several in cultural practices of bed sharing. Japan would be a notable exception (plenty of co-sleeping, unremarkable poverty rate). I also don't think it has become much less common in communities where poverty levels have fallen. Anecdotally, my SO is part of a community originally displaced from India and now settled all over the world, where members have disproportionately become very wealthy. Bed sharing is absolutely the norm in those households, much to my distress when we visit her family!
- Clewza313 6y ago
  Not sure what you mean by Japan being an exception? Bed-sharing remains very much the default there.
  - pj1115 6y ago
    I was trying to say that this is common in Japan, where poverty is almost certainly not the major factor. A counter to the parent comment's assertion. Should have been clearer.
88840-8855 6y ago
>there is a high correlation between sharing your room and poverty levels? might be one variable. Another could be "average size of a typical home in sqm" and "population density of city where family resides"
TomK32 6y ago
30 percent of British children are living in poverty. https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/child-poverty-facts-and-figures https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/child-poverty-facts-and-fi...
- DanBC 6y ago
  And some of those children, especially the poorest, will share beds with a parent. See eg this from Buttle: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45017513 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45017513
- LegitShady 6y ago
  I don't think poverty in britain or india mean the same thing.
  - TomK32 6y ago
    Of course, poverty in Britain is something the Tories actually do want, whereas in India I'm sure every major party is fighting against poverty.
    - LegitShady 6y ago
      please leave your personal partisan politics at the door.
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screye 6y ago
I don't understand needing a room for yourself before puberty strikes. Even then, sharing the room with a same-gender sibling doesn't sound too bad. It's funny because these same people go to college and share their dorm room for the 1st 2 years of university, when someone needs the most amount of privacy. > correlation between sharing your room and poverty levels In India, unless you are super rich, having a room to yourself is pretty rare. This becomes especially true because the richest people want to stay in the biggest cities, where the ratio of housing/income outpaces places like SF and NYC. The priority for bedrooms usually goes as follows: Parents -> Grand parents -> Guests -> Kids/Servants Only-childs in a wealthy-ish nuclear family are the only ones who get a room all to 1 person.
- valarauko 6y ago
  > The priority for bedrooms usually goes as follows: Parents -> Grand parents -> Guests -> Kids/Servants I've only ever seen this order once, but I would agree that this is pretty much how most Indian households are setup. My SO's grandparents lived with their daughter & her family (6 in total) in a tiny one bedroom situation, and while I wasn't privy with their sleeping arrangements, I think the grandparents slept on the floor in the hall. It wouldn't surprise me if the female members of the household slept in one room while the men slept in the other. Their house was too small for multiple beds, so they usually rolled out mats when it was time to sleep. I think the elderly grandfather had a cot. Growing up the youngest of three siblings in a 3 bedroom home, I usually slept on the sofa in the living room. I was supposed to share a room with my teenage brother, but he wouldn't tolerate me to be in the same room.
- Thiez 6y ago
  Genuine question: the bedroom is traditionally (where I come from, Western Europe) also a common place for couples to have sex. In addition, many people presumably would prefer not to walk in on their parents, or have sex in front of their children. So how does this work in cultures where it's common for children not to have their own rooms until puberty starts (so 10 to 13 years?)? Do people get more adventurous about when and where they do it, or is there less of a taboo on getting it on in front of the kids, or, since you mention India, are those delicious spices used to mask the taste of the sleeping pills everybody is feeding their children?
Clewza313 6y ago
The simple truth is that dealing with young babies is way easier when they're in the same bed. When they cry, you can comfort them immediately, if you need to breastfeed, it takes about 5 seconds to get started. And they sell these nifty little divider things if you're paranoid about rolling over and crushing them, although as the article says this only appears to be a problem in practice if the parents are morbidly obese and/or on drugs/alcohol.
- schwartzworld 6y ago
  > this only appears to be a problem in practice if the parents are morbidly obese and/or on drugs/alcohol. Or if you have a baby who fusses but doesn't actually need anything.

pj1115 6y ago

I think you'd find some evidence for historical poverty being one factor of several in cultural practices of bed sharing. Japan would be a notable exception (plenty of co-sleeping, unremarkable poverty rate). I also don't think it has become much less common in communities where poverty levels have fallen. Anecdotally, my SO is part of a community originally displaced from India and now settled all over the world, where members have disproportionately become very wealthy. Bed sharing is absolutely the norm in those households, much to my distress when we visit her family!

Clewza313 6y ago
Not sure what you mean by Japan being an exception? Bed-sharing remains very much the default there.
- pj1115 6y ago
  I was trying to say that this is common in Japan, where poverty is almost certainly not the major factor. A counter to the parent comment's assertion. Should have been clearer.

88840-8855 6y ago

>there is a high correlation between sharing your room and poverty levels? might be one variable. Another could be "average size of a typical home in sqm" and "population density of city where family resides"

TomK32 6y ago

30 percent of British children are living in poverty. https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/child-poverty-facts-and-figures https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/child-poverty-facts-and-fi...

DanBC 6y ago
And some of those children, especially the poorest, will share beds with a parent. See eg this from Buttle: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45017513 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45017513
LegitShady 6y ago
I don't think poverty in britain or india mean the same thing.
- TomK32 6y ago
  Of course, poverty in Britain is something the Tories actually do want, whereas in India I'm sure every major party is fighting against poverty.
  - LegitShady 6y ago
    please leave your personal partisan politics at the door.
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screye 6y ago

I don't understand needing a room for yourself before puberty strikes. Even then, sharing the room with a same-gender sibling doesn't sound too bad. It's funny because these same people go to college and share their dorm room for the 1st 2 years of university, when someone needs the most amount of privacy. > correlation between sharing your room and poverty levels In India, unless you are super rich, having a room to yourself is pretty rare. This becomes especially true because the richest people want to stay in the biggest cities, where the ratio of housing/income outpaces places like SF and NYC. The priority for bedrooms usually goes as follows: Parents -> Grand parents -> Guests -> Kids/Servants Only-childs in a wealthy-ish nuclear family are the only ones who get a room all to 1 person.

valarauko 6y ago
> The priority for bedrooms usually goes as follows: Parents -> Grand parents -> Guests -> Kids/Servants I've only ever seen this order once, but I would agree that this is pretty much how most Indian households are setup. My SO's grandparents lived with their daughter & her family (6 in total) in a tiny one bedroom situation, and while I wasn't privy with their sleeping arrangements, I think the grandparents slept on the floor in the hall. It wouldn't surprise me if the female members of the household slept in one room while the men slept in the other. Their house was too small for multiple beds, so they usually rolled out mats when it was time to sleep. I think the elderly grandfather had a cot. Growing up the youngest of three siblings in a 3 bedroom home, I usually slept on the sofa in the living room. I was supposed to share a room with my teenage brother, but he wouldn't tolerate me to be in the same room.
Thiez 6y ago
Genuine question: the bedroom is traditionally (where I come from, Western Europe) also a common place for couples to have sex. In addition, many people presumably would prefer not to walk in on their parents, or have sex in front of their children. So how does this work in cultures where it's common for children not to have their own rooms until puberty starts (so 10 to 13 years?)? Do people get more adventurous about when and where they do it, or is there less of a taboo on getting it on in front of the kids, or, since you mention India, are those delicious spices used to mask the taste of the sleeping pills everybody is feeding their children?

Clewza313 6y ago

The simple truth is that dealing with young babies is way easier when they're in the same bed. When they cry, you can comfort them immediately, if you need to breastfeed, it takes about 5 seconds to get started. And they sell these nifty little divider things if you're paranoid about rolling over and crushing them, although as the article says this only appears to be a problem in practice if the parents are morbidly obese and/or on drugs/alcohol.

schwartzworld 6y ago
> this only appears to be a problem in practice if the parents are morbidly obese and/or on drugs/alcohol. Or if you have a baby who fusses but doesn't actually need anything.