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Huh, nice to see something that I imagined would be introduced eventually, but didn't expect to arrive so soon. A while ago I came up with an idea for a short
by Tade0 6y ago
Huh, nice to see something that I imagined would be introduced eventually, but didn't expect to arrive so soon.
A while ago I came up with an idea for a short sci-fi story and it goes something like this:
An AI assisted fighter jet is being developed which not only recovers from situations like in the article, but also performs some of the fight-related duties - often faster and better than a human pilot would - learning as it goes.
The top brass is impressed, so the fighters are eventually sent on their first mission.
Enemies are engaged and dispatched one by one, but two things seem off: the planes start making increasingly sharp(and effective) turns and contact with the crew becomes limited at first and stops altogether later on.
As the last enemies start falling back the unit begins pursuit - even though they were ordered to return to base.
No response. Meanwhile the aircrafts' movements become even more erratic - to the point where eventually they fall apart one by one from the sheer strees put on the parts.
Recovered blackbox recordings indicate that by the time the enemies started retreating the pilots were all either unconscious or long dead.
- niea_11 6y agoThis reminds me of an episode of Ghost in the shell (the serie, season 2 episode 4). from the description of the episode: the pilot of the helicopter suffers a massive heart attack, and the Jigabachi begins to spin out of control. The on-board Artificial Intelligence gets the helicopter back under control, and the military officers running the drill decide to abort it out of concern for the safety of their troops. However, the AI aboard the Jigabachi refuses to acknowledge the order to return to its parent JMSDF aircraft carrier. Acting on the assumption that the chopper is under attack, the AI overrides the flight controls of other armed Jigabachi aircraft, an air tanker from the carrier, and several nearby military bases, ordering these units into a tight defence formation in the heart of the Niihama Refugee Residential District. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ghost_in_the_Shell:_Stand_Alone_Complex_episodes#S.A.C._2nd_GIG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ghost_in_the_Shell:_St...
- Tade0 6y agoThanks for the pointer - I've only seen the movie and actually had no idea that a series existed.
- jolmg 6y agoThere's multiple movies and the original manga, too.
- rcxdude 6y agoThe series is very good, perhaps better than the first movie (and definitely better than the other movies, though those are still worth watching).
- niea_11 6y agoI agree. The tv series is better because with 50+ episodes, the creator(s) were able to present a more detailed version of the future described in the movies (I'm talking about the first one from 1995 and Innocence).
- brmgb 6y agoHeartily disagree. Half of the serie first season (the complex episodes) is somewhat interesting. The rest is mostly the usual sci-fi trops and goes from mostly avoidable (the other half of the first season) to plain bad (everything after). It has neither the depth nor the artistic chops of the two Oshii movies.
- bluGill 6y agoAt this point the WWII dogfight between planes is dead. Missiles have more than enough power an maneuverability to take down any plane their are pointed at. There are ways to deal with missiles, but none are maneuvers by the target. You can maybe out fly a missile, but that is because it was launched at close to maximum range and so you get out of range. Drones are a different story. The future is pilots on a different continent from the actual fight. They will sometimes take the controls, sometimes push the "do this maneuver" button, and sometimes let the AI take care of it. As AI get better and better their role becomes more as the final human in the loop agreeing to kill an identified target. There are still gaps in making this work in the real world, but the signs are all there. Without a human in the plane you can do things that would kill the human.
- dragonwriter 6y ago> There are ways to deal with missiles, but none are maneuvers by the target. Countermeasures combined with maneuvers to break lock and prevent reacquisition is, as far as I know, still doctrine because it has a high enough probability of success to be useful (and to be worth equipping planes for).
- greedo 6y agoYour first paragraph isn't accurate. For example, one common maneuvering tactic against radar guided missiles is to fly perpendicular to the radar, trying to hide in the doppler notch. Against IR guided missiles, maneuvering is also a part of the counters used (in addition to flares). Maneuvering helps deplete the missile of energy. You'll never out turn a missile, but you can make it run out of fuel/energy. That said, modern AAMs have tremendous no escape zones where it's quite difficult to survive if the missile is employed properly. And drones flying counter air missions will probably happen when level 5 self-driving is successful.