I think a bit more as ambition. If a standards body doesn't want to rescue us from the surveillance state, is it surprising that someone hopes to do better? I

I think a bit more as ambition. If a standards body doesn't want to rescue us from the surveillance state, is it surprising that someone hopes to do better? I look forward to a real IPv8 standard that respects user privacy, but I look forward to it in a way that recognizes that it's pretty damn unlikely at this point.