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> "When the product is free, you are the product." This only makes sense in software because your your data is being harvested for insights that can be used fo

by sn9 6y ago

> "When the product is free, you are the product." This only makes sense in software because your your data is being harvested for insights that can be used for profits. It doesn't make sense at all for vaccines. How would a country profit from making its population sick? That's trillions of dollars of lost productivity.... Your entire line of reasoning is just really fundamentally unsound. The research around the efficacy and safety of these vaccines, performed and peer-reviewed by thousands of professionals with actually relevant training, has yet to show that there is a reason to be concerned about the vaccines. The risk to benefit ratio compared to letting the pandemic continue unabated definitely favors vaccinating the population.

ta-pe 6y ago
Well, you could argue that if governments want you to be healthy, why not subsidize healthcare, make meds cheaper, etc. Vaccine in this case is another form of med that is given out for free, why not insulin? Governments can also stimulate economy with stimulus payments that would be spent relatively quickly, though that decision is not straightforward, why is vaccine being free straightforward? "You're the product" could also mean they haven't priced these properly as part of the healthcare systems, so this is effectively still a clinical trial, which is an explanation that I can be happy with now. It's free now as it's part of a clinical trial, but will cost you money once safety is proven and is established. Just hard to assume good intent in a world where generally everything costs money.
- flukus 6y ago
  > Well, you could argue that if governments want you to be healthy, why not subsidize healthcare, make meds cheaper, etc. Vaccine in this case is another form of med that is given out for free, why not insulin? Most of the developed world does just this.

by sn9 6y ago

ta-pe 6y ago

Well, you could argue that if governments want you to be healthy, why not subsidize healthcare, make meds cheaper, etc. Vaccine in this case is another form of med that is given out for free, why not insulin? Governments can also stimulate economy with stimulus payments that would be spent relatively quickly, though that decision is not straightforward, why is vaccine being free straightforward? "You're the product" could also mean they haven't priced these properly as part of the healthcare systems, so this is effectively still a clinical trial, which is an explanation that I can be happy with now. It's free now as it's part of a clinical trial, but will cost you money once safety is proven and is established. Just hard to assume good intent in a world where generally everything costs money.

flukus 6y ago
> Well, you could argue that if governments want you to be healthy, why not subsidize healthcare, make meds cheaper, etc. Vaccine in this case is another form of med that is given out for free, why not insulin? Most of the developed world does just this.