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Could you elaborate on CS graduates getting turned down? I've seen how much trouble companies have hiring, so the only reasons I'm coming up with are these grad

Could you elaborate on CS graduates getting turned down? I've seen how much trouble companies have hiring, so the only reasons I'm coming up with are these graduates aren't willing to relocate or they studied CS because it pays well, but they're not actually that good at it. Something very underappreciated, and possibly the cause of the classic CS class bimodal distribution, is how many students live the stuff outside of school, so someone academically good at CS ends up competing with someone who has random open source projects, sysadmins a linux server, knows how to set up a network, and has a CS degree.

ItsMonkk 6y ago
They came for the high school drop outs and I did not speak out... High school grads, College Grads, Liberal Arts Grads, Non-STEM Grads, Non-Tech Grads, and now here we are. They came for the average CS graduates and I did not speak out. How far do we have to get up the stack to notice we have a problem? Harvard Medical Grads?
- worker767424 6y ago
  Not sure if this reference really applies. If you're not good enough to do the job, you're not good enough to do the job. We do seem to be overproducing college grads, but I've heard nothing like that for CS grads.
devwastaken 6y ago
Companies do not have trouble hiring. They have trouble hiring high experience for entry level pay. They have trouble hiring people who know exactly how to solve their abstract set of requirements on a resume. Your comment embodies the problem. If you expect CS students to have a wide array of specific work experience then you're siphoning experience and not creating any. Companies should be much more concerned with teaching while building. Most of these students can do the work - they simply need an introduction to the specific special environment that company uses. But those companies refuse. Therefore they don't get workers. It's a self created problem. It's also in line with basic market economics. Surplus of hiring candidates means you have more leverage. Another proof is how often big name companies will do diversity hires that are not related to competancy. If there was such demand and competancy required then these would not happen.

ItsMonkk 6y ago

They came for the high school drop outs and I did not speak out... High school grads, College Grads, Liberal Arts Grads, Non-STEM Grads, Non-Tech Grads, and now here we are. They came for the average CS graduates and I did not speak out. How far do we have to get up the stack to notice we have a problem? Harvard Medical Grads?

worker767424 6y ago
Not sure if this reference really applies. If you're not good enough to do the job, you're not good enough to do the job. We do seem to be overproducing college grads, but I've heard nothing like that for CS grads.

devwastaken 6y ago

Companies do not have trouble hiring. They have trouble hiring high experience for entry level pay. They have trouble hiring people who know exactly how to solve their abstract set of requirements on a resume. Your comment embodies the problem. If you expect CS students to have a wide array of specific work experience then you're siphoning experience and not creating any. Companies should be much more concerned with teaching while building. Most of these students can do the work - they simply need an introduction to the specific special environment that company uses. But those companies refuse. Therefore they don't get workers. It's a self created problem. It's also in line with basic market economics. Surplus of hiring candidates means you have more leverage. Another proof is how often big name companies will do diversity hires that are not related to competancy. If there was such demand and competancy required then these would not happen.