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When did CNN viewers storm the capitol in attempt to overthrow the elected government, leading to the deaths of 7 people?

by cozuya 6y ago

citilife 6y ago
There's actually a lot of clips of CNN & other reporters helping and pushing protesters into the Capital Building... https://twitter.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/1349904573117341698 https://twitter.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/134990457311734169... Also, only two persons died of wounds confirmed at the Capital (both protestors). The only person who was shot, was recorded by the "reporter" in the video above was egging on the police & protestors at the time. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-video-arrested/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-vi... Further, regarding the "7 deaths" two additional people died from a stroke and heart attack going to the Capital. Yes, there were then three additional fatalities in the _days_ following the event. None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer). While facts and the evidence can change, the current facts do not support the claims being made.
- cozuya 6y ago
  Lauren Witzke is a Q Anon supporter. Do you think Q Anon supporters should be given a voice here on HN? Also, why does it matter how many people died during the attempt to overthrow our government by far right extremists? How many deaths are acceptable? 1? 7?
  - citilife 6y ago
    > Lauren Witzke is a Q Anon supporter. Do you think Q Anon supporters should be given a voice here on HN? Sure, I believe everyone deserves a voice? Kind of weird to say that. Further, it's the content of the video that matters. There was nothing Q related in the tweet. > Also, why does it matter how many people died during the attempt to overthrow our government by far right extremists? How many deaths are acceptable? 1? 7? (1) The previous post has a video of far left extremist perpetrating the storming of the Capital. (2) I'm not arguing any fatalities are acceptable. I'm simply pointing out the figures are inaccurate; which is important because we need to have a basis of facts to have discussions. Facts, which are currently being exaggerated for political ends.
    - whydoibother 6y ago
      You are liar.
    - cozuya 6y ago
      Everyone deserves a voice? A group of people (QAnons) who believe their prominent political opponents should be murdered deserves a voice? What is "weird" about thinking that they should not be given a voice here on Hacker News? Wow.
- FireBeyond 6y ago
  By CNN, you mean an independent (QAnon-pushing) documentary filmmaker, who was egging on an alt-right activist? This one has been debunked. > Yes, there were then three additional fatalities in the _days_ following the event. None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer). Oh, you're going to have to try harder than that. Just because there was no indication that, specifically, "blunt force trauma was the immediate cause of death of [Officer Sicknick]" doesn't mean anything close to "None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way". CPR being performed on him. A hemorrhagic stroke within hours, a ventilator (multiple pepper sprayings), and death within 24 hours. All factors that you say "eh, coincidence" to.
- ak217 6y ago
  Please don't post disinformation here. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9906367046 https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9906367046
  - citilife 6y ago
    I agree, you should stop posting fact checkers and instead look at the government report linked in the post I linked. The man recording the video was repeatedly on CNN/NBC/etc sharing his story... also Jade was an independent photo journalist who's clients include: CNN, NBC, etc. https://www.jadesacker.com/about https://www.jadesacker.com/about This "fact checker" appears to be a bias journalist, I recommend checking the facts yourself. You don't need someone telling you what is real vs not, they dont' provide links in the AP article. While I think it's fair to say they aren't "CNN journalists", they are employed by CNN as effectively contract workers.
- JamisonM 6y ago
  Jade Sacker doesn't work for CNN. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-woman-capitol-not-cnn-idUSKBN29O2LG https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-woman-capitol-n... Feels like you are just getting played and then propagating your problems further here.
  - citilife 6y ago
    https://www.jadesacker.com/about https://www.jadesacker.com/about Her client list includes CNN, NBC, etc. Yes, she's an independent photographer who is often under contract with CNN, NBC, etc. Not clear if she was at the time, tbh. That wasn't exactly my only point, the way the industry works -- CNN, NBC, etc buy content from people who go into dangerous situations. So these people are in-effect the "journalists". In her case, I don't know if she was credentialed or not, but given her lack of arrest (as far as we can tell), she likely was.
    - JamisonM 6y ago
      Complaining about the press being fast and loose with the facts while being fast and loose with the facts yourself is your choice.
- retromario 6y ago
  > None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer). That is simply false. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-officer-suicides-capitol-riot/2021/02/11/94804ee2-665c-11eb-886d-5264d4ceb46d_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-of...

When did CNN viewers storm the capitol in attempt to overthrow the elected government, leading to the deaths of 7 people?

by cozuya 6y ago

When did CNN viewers storm the capitol in attempt to overthrow the elected government, leading to the deaths of 7 people?

citilife 6y ago

There's actually a lot of clips of CNN & other reporters helping and pushing protesters into the Capital Building... https://twitter.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/1349904573117341698 https://twitter.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/134990457311734169... Also, only two persons died of wounds confirmed at the Capital (both protestors). The only person who was shot, was recorded by the "reporter" in the video above was egging on the police & protestors at the time. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-video-arrested/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-vi... Further, regarding the "7 deaths" two additional people died from a stroke and heart attack going to the Capital. Yes, there were then three additional fatalities in the _days_ following the event. None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer). While facts and the evidence can change, the current facts do not support the claims being made.

cozuya 6y ago
Lauren Witzke is a Q Anon supporter. Do you think Q Anon supporters should be given a voice here on HN? Also, why does it matter how many people died during the attempt to overthrow our government by far right extremists? How many deaths are acceptable? 1? 7?
- citilife 6y ago
  > Lauren Witzke is a Q Anon supporter. Do you think Q Anon supporters should be given a voice here on HN? Sure, I believe everyone deserves a voice? Kind of weird to say that. Further, it's the content of the video that matters. There was nothing Q related in the tweet. > Also, why does it matter how many people died during the attempt to overthrow our government by far right extremists? How many deaths are acceptable? 1? 7? (1) The previous post has a video of far left extremist perpetrating the storming of the Capital. (2) I'm not arguing any fatalities are acceptable. I'm simply pointing out the figures are inaccurate; which is important because we need to have a basis of facts to have discussions. Facts, which are currently being exaggerated for political ends.
  - whydoibother 6y ago
    You are liar.
  - cozuya 6y ago
    Everyone deserves a voice? A group of people (QAnons) who believe their prominent political opponents should be murdered deserves a voice? What is "weird" about thinking that they should not be given a voice here on Hacker News? Wow.
FireBeyond 6y ago
By CNN, you mean an independent (QAnon-pushing) documentary filmmaker, who was egging on an alt-right activist? This one has been debunked. > Yes, there were then three additional fatalities in the _days_ following the event. None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer). Oh, you're going to have to try harder than that. Just because there was no indication that, specifically, "blunt force trauma was the immediate cause of death of [Officer Sicknick]" doesn't mean anything close to "None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way". CPR being performed on him. A hemorrhagic stroke within hours, a ventilator (multiple pepper sprayings), and death within 24 hours. All factors that you say "eh, coincidence" to.
ak217 6y ago
Please don't post disinformation here. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9906367046 https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9906367046
- citilife 6y ago
  I agree, you should stop posting fact checkers and instead look at the government report linked in the post I linked. The man recording the video was repeatedly on CNN/NBC/etc sharing his story... also Jade was an independent photo journalist who's clients include: CNN, NBC, etc. https://www.jadesacker.com/about https://www.jadesacker.com/about This "fact checker" appears to be a bias journalist, I recommend checking the facts yourself. You don't need someone telling you what is real vs not, they dont' provide links in the AP article. While I think it's fair to say they aren't "CNN journalists", they are employed by CNN as effectively contract workers.
JamisonM 6y ago
Jade Sacker doesn't work for CNN. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-woman-capitol-not-cnn-idUSKBN29O2LG https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-woman-capitol-n... Feels like you are just getting played and then propagating your problems further here.
- citilife 6y ago
  https://www.jadesacker.com/about https://www.jadesacker.com/about Her client list includes CNN, NBC, etc. Yes, she's an independent photographer who is often under contract with CNN, NBC, etc. Not clear if she was at the time, tbh. That wasn't exactly my only point, the way the industry works -- CNN, NBC, etc buy content from people who go into dangerous situations. So these people are in-effect the "journalists". In her case, I don't know if she was credentialed or not, but given her lack of arrest (as far as we can tell), she likely was.
  - JamisonM 6y ago
    Complaining about the press being fast and loose with the facts while being fast and loose with the facts yourself is your choice.
retromario 6y ago
> None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer). That is simply false. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-officer-suicides-capitol-riot/2021/02/11/94804ee2-665c-11eb-886d-5264d4ceb46d_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-of...