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Modern IDEs often ave basic source control baked in. You don't even need to commit anything. I wonder whether there is any point in using Git for basic version

Modern IDEs often ave basic source control baked in. You don't even need to commit anything. I wonder whether there is any point in using Git for basic version control if those features are already available.

dimitrios1 6y ago
Yes: you like the interface for git already and are productive with it versus learning how to achieve the same productivity while learning the idiosyncrasies of your chosen IDE platform.
- hinkley 6y ago
  I'm butchering something someone said here about a month ago: Some people cut a trail through the jungle, others just push the branches out of the way and expect everyone behind them to do the same.
majormajor 6y ago
At least in IntelliJ, I find using the local file history stuff painful. With explicit source control, I'm making specific decisions to check in known states. When I have to resort to the local file history stuff, there's a lot more of "oh, here I undo'd a typo" and so on type of things. That said, it can be a lifesaver when I didn't make an explicit commit, then started doing stuff, then realized "ok this got out of hand AND I wish I could go back five minutes but it's gonna be annoying."
- hinkley 6y ago
  The intellij local history works best when your code is a raging monolith. It punishes you when you find coupling in otherwise uncoupled code, and that punishment is there whether you leave the coupling or try to fix it. One of the failure modes for people leaving a mess is if it's too hard to fix it they give up. So that's no good.
coding123 6y ago
Most IDEs that have basic source control baked in typically means it has a git client and UI. I know that years ago I used Netbeans local history but it's a per-file history and does nothing to keep a set of files at a specific "save point" together.
dpedu 6y ago
Committing aside, git also has stash. Many people prefer using one consistent tool (git) over the variety of IDE's equivalent features available.
- greyhair 6y ago
  I posted elsewhere. Stash is your friend. If you aren't using stash today, learn it. And learn the difference between 'stash pop' and 'stash apply'. Each has its place and time.

dimitrios1 6y ago

Yes: you like the interface for git already and are productive with it versus learning how to achieve the same productivity while learning the idiosyncrasies of your chosen IDE platform.

hinkley 6y ago
I'm butchering something someone said here about a month ago: Some people cut a trail through the jungle, others just push the branches out of the way and expect everyone behind them to do the same.

majormajor 6y ago

At least in IntelliJ, I find using the local file history stuff painful. With explicit source control, I'm making specific decisions to check in known states. When I have to resort to the local file history stuff, there's a lot more of "oh, here I undo'd a typo" and so on type of things. That said, it can be a lifesaver when I didn't make an explicit commit, then started doing stuff, then realized "ok this got out of hand AND I wish I could go back five minutes but it's gonna be annoying."

hinkley 6y ago
The intellij local history works best when your code is a raging monolith. It punishes you when you find coupling in otherwise uncoupled code, and that punishment is there whether you leave the coupling or try to fix it. One of the failure modes for people leaving a mess is if it's too hard to fix it they give up. So that's no good.

coding123 6y ago

Most IDEs that have basic source control baked in typically means it has a git client and UI. I know that years ago I used Netbeans local history but it's a per-file history and does nothing to keep a set of files at a specific "save point" together.

dpedu 6y ago

Committing aside, git also has stash. Many people prefer using one consistent tool (git) over the variety of IDE's equivalent features available.

greyhair 6y ago
I posted elsewhere. Stash is your friend. If you aren't using stash today, learn it. And learn the difference between 'stash pop' and 'stash apply'. Each has its place and time.