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It seems tantamount to declaring that a system can never interact with the outside world. If I'm creating tax filing software, do I need to spin up a local ins

It seems tantamount to declaring that a system can never interact with the outside world. If I'm creating tax filing software, do I need to spin up a local instance of the IRS to test with?

minitoar 6y ago
You can possibly stub out the IRS with realistic test cases that you care about.
- TheCoelacanth 6y ago
  > "Run an individual service against mocks" doesn't count. > "Run most services in a mostly-isolated development environment, calling out to a few hard-to-run external services" doesn't count.
  - minitoar 6y ago
    I think they're talking about services that you or your firm develops, or maintains, or ships. In this case the IRS is none of those things.
    - gfunk911 6y ago
      Yes, obviously this. People who don't understand this either just want to argue, or haven't thought about this at all.
0xEFF 6y ago
> If I'm creating tax filing software, do I need to spin up a local instance of the IRS to test with? No, integrate directly with the test endpoints provided by the IRS [1]. [1]: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-schema/Portal%20Transition%20Guide%20for%20Modernized%20e-File%20v14r3.pdf https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-schema/Portal%20Transition%20Gui...
haroldl 6y ago
In the spirit of the article, I think that the approach would be to ask your partners to provide a sandbox/test environment that your sandbox/test environment can interact with, or test accounts in production at least.