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> Lately I've come to the conclusion that peace and quiet really is a luxury to have. Most people I don't think get to experience it. It absolutely is. I got t

> Lately I've come to the conclusion that peace and quiet really is a luxury to have. Most people I don't think get to experience it. It absolutely is. I got the chance to live in a quiet neighborhood near the ocean for a few months and I think back fondly to the level of calm during evening walks there. It felt downright _nourishing_ to my psyche. This is contrast to living within line of sight to San Diego Airport with the first airplane taking off at 6:31a. In addition to waking me up it would also trigger a significant amount of stress - not a great way to start the day. Cities are not designed for anything resembling healthy living currently. I hope this changes soon.

sebmellen 6y ago
It's almost criminal that houses are built so close to the airport. I have a few friends who live downtown in that area and it seems like hell.
- jborichevskiy 6y ago
  Indeed. I understand it's a multi-faceted issue given the economic development the airport has provided (and continues to provide), but it seems health and wellness externalities were not priced in fully. Now that the airport is built and housing density only continues to increase - where does this lead? From the wikipedia article: > SAN is in a populated area. To appease the concerns of the airport's neighbors regarding noise and possible ensuing lawsuits, a curfew was put in place in 1979. Takeoffs are allowed between 6:30 a.m. and 11:30 p.m. Outside those hours, they are subject to a large fine. Arrivals are permitted 24 hours per day.[47] While several flights have scheduled departure times before 6:30 a.m., these times are pushback times; the first takeoff roll is at 6:30 a.m. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_International_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_International_Airpor...
  - sebmellen 6y ago
    I've taken off later than 11:30 PM, i think realistically 12:30 is the cutoff, especially on very busy days. I remember hearing that the first month of lockdown was blissful because there were so few flights coming through.
birdyrooster 6y ago
My apartment complex fire alarms go off once a week due to one smoker or food burning in a single building which then causes every building to start alarming. This week, they are doing testing which means that an entire building fire alarm will go off for every individual unit they test. There are 1000 units here and almost 100 are in my building. I have heard the fire alarm go off nearly 100 distinct times and I don’t even register fire alarms as being useful anymore. These people hate me and want me to die in a fire.
- jborichevskiy 6y ago
  That genuinely sounds like hell - hoping you get a calm environment soon.

sebmellen 6y ago

It's almost criminal that houses are built so close to the airport. I have a few friends who live downtown in that area and it seems like hell.

jborichevskiy 6y ago
Indeed. I understand it's a multi-faceted issue given the economic development the airport has provided (and continues to provide), but it seems health and wellness externalities were not priced in fully. Now that the airport is built and housing density only continues to increase - where does this lead? From the wikipedia article: > SAN is in a populated area. To appease the concerns of the airport's neighbors regarding noise and possible ensuing lawsuits, a curfew was put in place in 1979. Takeoffs are allowed between 6:30 a.m. and 11:30 p.m. Outside those hours, they are subject to a large fine. Arrivals are permitted 24 hours per day.[47] While several flights have scheduled departure times before 6:30 a.m., these times are pushback times; the first takeoff roll is at 6:30 a.m. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_International_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_International_Airpor...
- sebmellen 6y ago
  I've taken off later than 11:30 PM, i think realistically 12:30 is the cutoff, especially on very busy days. I remember hearing that the first month of lockdown was blissful because there were so few flights coming through.

birdyrooster 6y ago

My apartment complex fire alarms go off once a week due to one smoker or food burning in a single building which then causes every building to start alarming. This week, they are doing testing which means that an entire building fire alarm will go off for every individual unit they test. There are 1000 units here and almost 100 are in my building. I have heard the fire alarm go off nearly 100 distinct times and I don’t even register fire alarms as being useful anymore. These people hate me and want me to die in a fire.

jborichevskiy 6y ago
That genuinely sounds like hell - hoping you get a calm environment soon.