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Great ! Can we now remove all these cookie banners that have been plaguing the web since a pencil pusher in the EU thought it would a great idea to force every

by IMTDb 6y ago

Great ! Can we now remove all these cookie banners that have been plaguing the web since a pencil pusher in the EU thought it would a great idea to force every single website to display an annoying popup.

kleiba 6y ago
The better way to do this would be if you could configure your preferences once and for all in the client which then transparently communicates it to the website providers.
- tcit 6y ago
  The DoNotTrack header didn't work.
  - kleiba 6y ago
    But there is a difference between a volunteer action by some browser developers, and the law. I think the bigger problem is that there are different policies in place in different legislation, so it would be very challenging to implement something that satisfies the needs.
belorn 6y ago
Simple, make a law that makes consent via banners invalid.
- thitcanh 6y ago
  I just imagined that video of a cat in zero-gravity
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  Spoiler alert: we have that law. The GDPR as it stands outlaws annoying/misleading consent banners. Next step: fire the incompetent people staffing the various data protection agencies and replace them with someone that would actually enforce said law.
SamuelAdams 6y ago
https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/ https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/
jx47 6y ago
These banners are there to fool you into accepting all cookies. They are basically a dark pattern at this point. The GDPR and the so called cookie law state that strictly functional cookies have implicit consent by the visitor. Even selfhosted tracking via cookies is considered functional. The GDPR/cookie law also does not enforce those banners. They only state that the user has to consent to every form of tracking. So every time you see one of these huge banners it is the deliberate effort by the website owner to trick you into accepting the tracking. https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ https://gdpr.eu/cookies/
- marshray 6y ago
  Nobody wants to argue with GDPR regulators which cookies are "strictly necessary" and they certainly don't want to pay lawyers to review the purpose and use of every cookie. It's not a trick, it's just that the easiest path for all sites to comply is to obtain blanket consent for everything. Classic perverse incentive.
jefftk 6y ago
This change is about blocking third-party cookies, while cookie banners also include notification around first party cookies. For example, first-party cookies used to implement analytics are included. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_and_Electronic_Communications_Directive_2002 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_and_Electronic_Communi...

by IMTDb 6y ago

kleiba 6y ago

The better way to do this would be if you could configure your preferences once and for all in the client which then transparently communicates it to the website providers.

tcit 6y ago
The DoNotTrack header didn't work.
- kleiba 6y ago
  But there is a difference between a volunteer action by some browser developers, and the law. I think the bigger problem is that there are different policies in place in different legislation, so it would be very challenging to implement something that satisfies the needs.

belorn 6y ago

Simple, make a law that makes consent via banners invalid.

thitcanh 6y ago
I just imagined that video of a cat in zero-gravity
Nextgrid 6y ago
Spoiler alert: we have that law. The GDPR as it stands outlaws annoying/misleading consent banners. Next step: fire the incompetent people staffing the various data protection agencies and replace them with someone that would actually enforce said law.

SamuelAdams 6y ago

https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/ https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/

jx47 6y ago

These banners are there to fool you into accepting all cookies. They are basically a dark pattern at this point. The GDPR and the so called cookie law state that strictly functional cookies have implicit consent by the visitor. Even selfhosted tracking via cookies is considered functional. The GDPR/cookie law also does not enforce those banners. They only state that the user has to consent to every form of tracking. So every time you see one of these huge banners it is the deliberate effort by the website owner to trick you into accepting the tracking. https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ https://gdpr.eu/cookies/

marshray 6y ago
Nobody wants to argue with GDPR regulators which cookies are "strictly necessary" and they certainly don't want to pay lawyers to review the purpose and use of every cookie. It's not a trick, it's just that the easiest path for all sites to comply is to obtain blanket consent for everything. Classic perverse incentive.

jefftk 6y ago

This change is about blocking third-party cookies, while cookie banners also include notification around first party cookies. For example, first-party cookies used to implement analytics are included. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_and_Electronic_Communications_Directive_2002 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_and_Electronic_Communi...