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It's legal because both sides agreed to settle for it. If it was an individual suing Epic, and they agreed to go away in return for some shiny digital magic be

It's legal because both sides agreed to settle for it. If it was an individual suing Epic, and they agreed to go away in return for some shiny digital magic beans, you wouldn't see anything wrong with that. What's different if a million customers settle for it? Customers can opt out of the class action, or start their own competing one. What would be a real problem is if other customers opted out, sued Epic individually, didn't settle, and the judge used the "payout" from the previous settlement to decide what a fair compensation would be. That hasn't happened here.

A12-B 6y ago
Lol, I'm sure every single person in the class action suit agreed to the settlement, and otherwise would be able to afford to sue them again. Right. Settlements are decided by a single class representative, and other class members are often not given notice of their right to opt-out or counter-sue.
- sudhirj 6y ago
  And that's why you'd opt into a class action in the first place. You have a problem, you elect someone to handle it for you, give them decision making power and accept the outcome they've been able to achieve. It's just democracy, no?
  - Arubis 6y ago
    All of this makes sense except for the bit about democracy. That's unrelated; this happens to be a process that's in use here, but it would work just as well in a monarchy.
njharman 6y ago
There are lots of things that are still illegal even if both sides agree to it. Slavery for instance. Also all the things covered by consumer protection litigation, which top commenter is probably thinking of. The conditions/clauses of the agreement must not be illegal.
alasdair_ 6y ago
> It's legal because both sides agreed to settle for it. I bet the lawyers representing the class aren't getting paid in VBucks. There are really three sides - Epic, the consumers, and the lawyers. The fact that class actions are opt-out instead of opt-in is a big part of the problem.
kemiller 6y ago
Hmm, I’m guessing the lawyers behind the suit aren’t getting paid in loot.

A12-B 6y ago

Lol, I'm sure every single person in the class action suit agreed to the settlement, and otherwise would be able to afford to sue them again. Right. Settlements are decided by a single class representative, and other class members are often not given notice of their right to opt-out or counter-sue.

sudhirj 6y ago
And that's why you'd opt into a class action in the first place. You have a problem, you elect someone to handle it for you, give them decision making power and accept the outcome they've been able to achieve. It's just democracy, no?
- Arubis 6y ago
  All of this makes sense except for the bit about democracy. That's unrelated; this happens to be a process that's in use here, but it would work just as well in a monarchy.

njharman 6y ago

There are lots of things that are still illegal even if both sides agree to it. Slavery for instance. Also all the things covered by consumer protection litigation, which top commenter is probably thinking of. The conditions/clauses of the agreement must not be illegal.

alasdair_ 6y ago

> It's legal because both sides agreed to settle for it. I bet the lawyers representing the class aren't getting paid in VBucks. There are really three sides - Epic, the consumers, and the lawyers. The fact that class actions are opt-out instead of opt-in is a big part of the problem.

kemiller 6y ago

Hmm, I’m guessing the lawyers behind the suit aren’t getting paid in loot.