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Punditry isn't news. It's editorializing. As for shootings or other things that are news, they are critical for a functioning democracy. What's happening arou

Punditry isn't news. It's editorializing. As for shootings or other things that are news, they are critical for a functioning democracy. What's happening around you should be informing your decisions come election day.

pb7 6y ago
> What's happening around you should be informing your decisions come election day. Should it? Isn't that how we got into this mess where every single publication and topic is politicized? There's no chance this isn't why public trust in media is dropping aggressively.
- hobs 6y ago
  Your proposed alternate is to ignore information to vote, which seem obviously worse?
  - Retric 6y ago
    Personally, no. You can easily look up actual crime statistics for example and become informed, watching the news doesn’t make you actually informed about anything particularly relevant. Put another way, the news cycle is a thin slice of time and news organizations filter things based on what’s important to them in the moment. A mass shooting for example might only make the news because it happened to follow some other even larger mass shooting.
pessimizer 6y ago
Reporting on shootings (and other things) is also punditry. There's an editorial decision being made about what deaths are important to report and what deaths are not.
- DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
  If I was shot to death for no good reason of course I’d want people to tell other people about it so they can do something to ensure it doesn’t happen again. Bias is everywhere - but there is still a regression-to-mean for self-interest via societal progress.
  - Retric 6y ago
    That’s why we collect crime statistics and do police investigations etc. If I specifically get shot it’s only really relevant in a wider context or to people who know me. Having 1 million people hear about my death to then forget about it by next week isn’t really relevant to anyone. Meanwhile my friends don’t need to hear about it on the news.
    - DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
      The subtext of my reply was that I was advocating for gun control legislation. There won't be popular support for GC without the news media reporting on unnecessary deaths that could have been prevented with adequate GC.
      - Retric 6y ago
        Plenty of ways to influence popular option without relying on news organizations.
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pb7 6y ago

> What's happening around you should be informing your decisions come election day. Should it? Isn't that how we got into this mess where every single publication and topic is politicized? There's no chance this isn't why public trust in media is dropping aggressively.

hobs 6y ago
Your proposed alternate is to ignore information to vote, which seem obviously worse?
- Retric 6y ago
  Personally, no. You can easily look up actual crime statistics for example and become informed, watching the news doesn’t make you actually informed about anything particularly relevant. Put another way, the news cycle is a thin slice of time and news organizations filter things based on what’s important to them in the moment. A mass shooting for example might only make the news because it happened to follow some other even larger mass shooting.

pessimizer 6y ago

Reporting on shootings (and other things) is also punditry. There's an editorial decision being made about what deaths are important to report and what deaths are not.

DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
If I was shot to death for no good reason of course I’d want people to tell other people about it so they can do something to ensure it doesn’t happen again. Bias is everywhere - but there is still a regression-to-mean for self-interest via societal progress.
- Retric 6y ago
  That’s why we collect crime statistics and do police investigations etc. If I specifically get shot it’s only really relevant in a wider context or to people who know me. Having 1 million people hear about my death to then forget about it by next week isn’t really relevant to anyone. Meanwhile my friends don’t need to hear about it on the news.
  - DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
    The subtext of my reply was that I was advocating for gun control legislation. There won't be popular support for GC without the news media reporting on unnecessary deaths that could have been prevented with adequate GC.
    - Retric 6y ago
      Plenty of ways to influence popular option without relying on news organizations.

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