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Price of purchase, price of ownership, price of use, is all a lot lower versus a car. Protection from rain as well as some traffic protection versus scooters/m
by IkmoIkmo 6y ago
Price of purchase, price of ownership, price of use, is all a lot lower versus a car.
Protection from rain as well as some traffic protection versus scooters/mopeds/bicycles, as well as speed versus a bike or slow moped, especially at certain times of the day and certain areas.
Also easier to go with two people and to move more luggage or groceries, than on a bike or scooter or moped.
More comfortable, too, e.g. having music on, heating, navigation.
Conveniently, no helmet or motorwear requirements. You can lock things away in your car.
And finally, because they're smaller, electric and have a higher occupancy percentage, congestion, sound, pollution and parking are all improved if more people would use them versus a car. Most 4-6 seater cars have an average occupancy per trip of <2, which means a ton of extra space and weight being moved around, which means more pollution, costs, sound, as well as more congestion and parking issues.
Tiny cars in combination with decent cycling / moped infrastructure, decent public transportation, and a high-tax on personal 4-6 seater cars and SUVs (which still makes economic sense if you actually seat 3-6 people, but don't if you're just sitting alone in your SUV tank) would make the streets safer, less congested, less polluting, less noisy, cheaper and better for the environment.
This model where the norm is to sit in traffic in a giant and heavy ICE car seating 4-6 by yourself, makes no sense. These cars have a place, but only for the niche 15% of trips that actually seat that many. Tiny personal cars, and public larger ridesharing cars, makes more sense.
- fomine3 6y agoI believe heating is most problematic for daily micro EVs in winter due to lower battery capacity, but adding capacity makes it not micro.
- IkmoIkmo 6y agoFair point, should probably have removed that. Still it's so much easier to stay warm if you're out of the wind, with doors closed, and can wear a jacket that doesn't turn you sweaty like biking 20min in warm winter clothes often does for me, due to not working out. To me the biggest downside to all these electric vehicles over bikes is that walking and biking is super healthy, and a city focused on infrastructure to accommodate it (with public-transport for larger trips) is a net benefit. The average American gets 3500 steps or so per day because they get transported everywhere by a vehicle, meaning probably a hundred million Americans get just 1000-2000 per day, when we ought to really be somewhere in the 5000-10000 range. If these things displace (ICE) cars, great. But I've never owned a car in my life and just bike/walk, but with electric vehicles becoming so convenient, cheap and useful, I see it displacing that very soon. A washing machine or water faucet displacing manual labour to clean clothes or get water from a well is great, a machine displacing even just walks and bike rides... not so much.