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Bitcoin tumbles 17% as doubts grow over valuations
- ChuckNorris89 6y agoWhat goes up must come down.
- miked85 6y agoSo it dropped the whole way down to what it was priced at two weeks ago.
- bondarchuk 6y agoMan, are you all just mindlessly upvoting every vaguely negative cryptocurrency article?
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- dylkil 6y agoBreaking News: Highly volatile asset experiences volatility
- Graffur 6y agoUnless Telsa is the last company to add BTC to their holding, I suspect this is temporary.
- throw_away892 6y agoNot enough. Need to see it go down 20-30% more. The BTC pump craze needs to die down so my diamond hands can buy it from the weak hands.
- jbverschoor 6y agoMany stocks dropped 5 - 10% too.
- Bluestein 6y ago(Word is some "whale" [big holder] got the correction going by selling off some 150M+ at 58K, cashing out ... I do not think valuations are in doubt - as much as they've ever been, at least ...)
- Bluestein 6y agoWhiile I understand the downvotes, to clarify: - None is saying this movement caused the drop. I'd be stupid to do so. Contributing factor ... - This is clear: The number of "whale" wallets vs. smaller wallets has done nothing but increase.- - Influx to exchanges have been outsized and abnormal large these past few days ... ... so, it would stand to reason that the market is more and more controlled and at the mercy of bigger players. Some speak of a massive "transfer of wealth" ...
- me_me_me 6y agoBTC was growing way to fast over last week, large sales into buying dip is something that happen all the time. Price will be back to the rough linear growth in 5days.
- Bluestein 6y agoI think so too. (However, the largest single day drop in BTC history must be pointing at something, and that cannot be ignored ...)
- adflux 6y agoThere are also rumors that Deltec has been hacked, which is the bank Tether supposedly uses to "back" the Tether stablecoin. Supposedly there is one dollar for each tether, but its looking more and more like that is not the case. https://www.coindesk.com/nyag-tether-bitfinex-loan-documents-coming-weeks https://www.coindesk.com/nyag-tether-bitfinex-loan-documents... https://twitter.com/deltecleaks https://twitter.com/deltecleaks I have not fact checked the leaks. EDIT: https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2021/attorney-general-james-ends-virtual-currency-trading-platform-bitfinexs-illegal https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2021/attorney-general-james-... NYAG taking action against Bitfinex/Tether!
- lifty 6y agoIt looks like they settled for $18.5 million and Bitfinex has to stop activity in NY.
- dylkil 6y ago"Contrary to online speculation, there was no finding that Tether ever issued tethers [USDT] without backing, or to manipulate crypto prices," said Weinstein, a former federal prosecutor.[1] [1]https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/95207/bitfinex-tether-new-york-ag-settlement-lawsuit https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/95207/bitfinex-tether-ne...
- adflux 6y ago3. The next day, November 2, 2018, Tether made the first of five transfers ultimately totaling $475 million from its bank account at Deltec Bank to Bitfinex’s account at Deltec Bank. At the same time, a corresponding transfer was made from Bitfinex’s account at Crypto Capital to Tether’s account at Crypto Capital via ledger entry Bitfinex also “purchased” 150 million tethers by transferring $150 million in funds held at Bitfinex’s Crypto Capital account to Tether’s account at Crypto Capital. These transfers were not disclosed. 44. And so, as of November 2, 2018, tethers were again no longer backed 1-to-1 by U.S. dollars in a Tether bank account, because a substantial portion of the backing in the Deltec account had been transferred to Bitfinex to make up for the funds taken by Crypto Capital, while the corresponding funds transferred from Bitfinex’s Crypto Capital account to Tether’s Crypto Capital account were impaired by Crypto Capital’s actions. 45. Tether’s misrepresentation would continue until late February 2019, at which time Tether updated its website to note that “[e]very tether is always 100% backed by our reserves, which include traditional currency and cash equivalents and, from time to time, may include other assets and receivables from loans made by Tether to third parties, which may include affiliated entities (collectively, ‘reserves’).” Tether did not announce that it had changed its disclosure, and indeed there were no media reports about the change until several weeks later on March 14, 2019 Read the settlement... https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2021.02.17_-_settlement_agreement_-_execution_version.b-t_signed-c2_oag_signed.pdf https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2021.02.17_-_settlemen...
- cduzz 6y agoIn modern bitcoin, what is the role of an exchange? Do most people hold their own wallet? If you have an offline wallet, what's the work involved with using that cold key to perform a transaction? And for an organization like Tesla, do they now have 2 FTE to manage their holdings or do they just have 3000 wallets with different amounts of BTC some of which are online and some of which are offline? This all seems like an enormous PITA to actually use for 99.9% of human sized transactions; an exchange seems like a reasonable mitigation against that, but now you're 100% at the mercy of something that's as trustworthy as an 1830's bank.
- captn3m0 6y agoProbably using something like https://www.bitgo.com/services/custody/qualified-custody https://www.bitgo.com/services/custody/qualified-custody
- cduzz 6y agoDoesn't that have all the same failure modes as a bank? Audits sometimes don't uncover faults; insurers sometimes don't make good on their obligations, regulatory agencies sometimes freeze funds, etc.