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a broad ruling will help all app developers though. imagine being able to make apps without having to bend over backwards to please apple/google's 1000 pages te

a broad ruling will help all app developers though. imagine being able to make apps without having to bend over backwards to please apple/google's 1000 pages terms of service and without giving them 30%. that's a third of all your revenue that goes to apple/google because they can.

tchalla 6y ago
What process should be used to come up with a number? Currently, that magic number is 30% or 15% (if revenue is less than $1M per year) progressive charge decided by Apple.
monkin 6y ago
> that's a third of all your revenue that goes to apple/google because they can. It’s not because “they can”. It is because they distribute it and give you huge audience of potential customers. Second, I’ll trust them more with my card than some third-party shady payment processor. You know how many scams would surface without them? So I’m really fine with Apple/Google taking my 30%, but I’m probably alone. :-)
- sumedh 6y ago
  > It is because they distribute it and give you huge audience of potential customers. Epic and many others dont need the distribution though. Gamers can easily go to Epic and download and install the apps themselves.
  - tssva 6y ago
    They can do that today and did do that initially on Android. They abandoned that path so the Play store must bring something of value to them.
    - sumedh 6y ago
      They can't do that on ios, never could. Fortnite still does it on android, why do you think they abandoned it?
      - detaro 6y ago
        ... because they did abandon it. After initially starting with their own side-loaded launcher they went into the Play store. They are now back to going outside the Play store after they started the payment fight with Apple and Google last year, which got them thrown out.
        sumedh 6y ago
        and that is a good thing that Epic has that option atleast on Google. Why do you hate freedom of choice?
        detaro 6y ago
        What exactly gave you the impression that I'm against that? I merely explained why wording choosen further up was appropriate.
        sumedh 6y ago
        Abandon is not the appropriate word.
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    - happymellon 6y ago
      This doesn't appear to be true. https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/mobile/android/get-started https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/mobile/android/get-...

tchalla 6y ago

What process should be used to come up with a number? Currently, that magic number is 30% or 15% (if revenue is less than $1M per year) progressive charge decided by Apple.

monkin 6y ago

> that's a third of all your revenue that goes to apple/google because they can. It’s not because “they can”. It is because they distribute it and give you huge audience of potential customers. Second, I’ll trust them more with my card than some third-party shady payment processor. You know how many scams would surface without them? So I’m really fine with Apple/Google taking my 30%, but I’m probably alone. :-)

sumedh 6y ago
> It is because they distribute it and give you huge audience of potential customers. Epic and many others dont need the distribution though. Gamers can easily go to Epic and download and install the apps themselves.
- tssva 6y ago
  They can do that today and did do that initially on Android. They abandoned that path so the Play store must bring something of value to them.
  - sumedh 6y ago
    They can't do that on ios, never could. Fortnite still does it on android, why do you think they abandoned it?
    - detaro 6y ago
      ... because they did abandon it. After initially starting with their own side-loaded launcher they went into the Play store. They are now back to going outside the Play store after they started the payment fight with Apple and Google last year, which got them thrown out.
      - sumedh 6y ago
        and that is a good thing that Epic has that option atleast on Google. Why do you hate freedom of choice?
        detaro 6y ago
        What exactly gave you the impression that I'm against that? I merely explained why wording choosen further up was appropriate.
        sumedh 6y ago
        Abandon is not the appropriate word.
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  - happymellon 6y ago
    This doesn't appear to be true. https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/mobile/android/get-started https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/mobile/android/get-...