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You know what Gruber didn't mention that's supposedly on the schedule? OS X Lion. There's not much to say about it I guess. But it could be the first system up

by ansy 15y ago

You know what Gruber didn't mention that's supposedly on the schedule? OS X Lion. There's not much to say about it I guess. But it could be the first system update distributed over the App Store.

philwelch 15y ago
I doubt that a lot--OS updates need to be on disc so you can boot from them.
- ugh 15y ago
  Hm, why? Lion was already distributed to the developers through the App Store.
  - ZitchDog 15y ago
    What do you do if your HD goes kaput and you need to restore?
    - ugh 15y ago
      You take your Mac to the Apple Store.
    - ansy 15y ago
      Technically, you restore from your Mac's original restoration media (either DVD or USB stick). If it was Snow Leopard, then go to the App Store and download the Lion update again for free because it remembers you bought it before. I assume Apple will sell a DVD version for MUCH more money (full $129 or higher) that you can use to do a fresh install or upgrade from Tiger and Leopard. I also assume the Lion upgrade in the App Store will be super cheap. Probably $30. Possibly as cheap as $10.
    - dazonic 15y ago
      iCloud, dummy! Seriously though, I'm guessing it's a second partition.
      - uxp 15y ago
        Multiple partitions won't help if the drive goes bad. With Apple's insistance that new HDDs in all their newer devices (*except the Mac Pro) are not user serviceable, no one should care about that because the new harddrive will be pre-loaded with an OS after you get it back from the Geniuses or AppleCare.
        uxp 15y ago
        If you want to downvote, that's fine, but please provide an explanation. My comment was not derogatory, rude or against any of the HN guidelines. Recent iMacs have been known to have their harddrive fans spin at full after a stock harddisk is replaced with an aftermarket replacement. Rumor is circulating that recent MacBook and MacBook Pro models are similar. Apple has hijacked some unused SATA wires to use for onboard temperature control on their branded drives. Unless you have access to genuine apple parts, any harddrive replacement on those models of computers won't work well. http://blog.macsales.com/10146-apple-further-restricts-upgrade-options-on-new-imacs http://blog.macsales.com/10146-apple-further-restricts-upgra... Long story short: To Apple, Harddrives are not user servicable components, thus to Apple, "no one should care", because the computer will come back to the consumer after any repairs to a failed harddrive with a clean copy of the new OS. I don't agree with that, but this is how things will be. I'm just a messenger with an opinion.
        dazonic 15y ago
        No downvotes from me. I've had two iMac HDDs die, lots of friends' too. My heart sunk when I found out about special temp sensor, I live a long way from any Apple repair centre. As for Lion, it's anyone's guess whether we'll get a burnable/USBable DMG or not...
  - cageface 15y ago
    How do you install it?
    - derefr 15y ago
      I haven't played with the Lion developer preview myself, but here's guessing: One of the "features" of Lion is a restore partition—I think that means a partition that is simply a copy of the install disc. That, combined with the fact that OSX has been able to in-place resize mounted volumes for a while now (originally coded for Boot Camp), makes me think that when Lion installer "app" starts, it simply makes 8GB of room at the beginning of your hard drive, writes its disc image there, then reboots into it.
    - ugh 15y ago
      You double click the installer.
- masklinn 15y ago
  > OS updates need to be on disc Nope. They can be on USB keys for starters, and you can reinstall to the previous version and re-update if the update is fast enough.
- radicaldreamer 15y ago
  10.6.8 is an update that prepares the app store to distribute OS updates. It makes a partition on your primary hard drive that you boot from to upgrade.
  - lurker19 15y ago
    OK for PC users. What if you have a Mac and therefore a tiny hard drive that is full because you use iApps that refuse to read from external media?
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by ansy 15y ago

You know what Gruber didn't mention that's supposedly on the schedule? OS X Lion. There's not much to say about it I guess. But it could be the first system update distributed over the App Store.

philwelch 15y ago

I doubt that a lot--OS updates need to be on disc so you can boot from them.

ugh 15y ago
Hm, why? Lion was already distributed to the developers through the App Store.
- ZitchDog 15y ago
  What do you do if your HD goes kaput and you need to restore?
  - ugh 15y ago
    You take your Mac to the Apple Store.
  - ansy 15y ago
    Technically, you restore from your Mac's original restoration media (either DVD or USB stick). If it was Snow Leopard, then go to the App Store and download the Lion update again for free because it remembers you bought it before. I assume Apple will sell a DVD version for MUCH more money (full $129 or higher) that you can use to do a fresh install or upgrade from Tiger and Leopard. I also assume the Lion upgrade in the App Store will be super cheap. Probably $30. Possibly as cheap as $10.
  - dazonic 15y ago
    iCloud, dummy! Seriously though, I'm guessing it's a second partition.
    - uxp 15y ago
      Multiple partitions won't help if the drive goes bad. With Apple's insistance that new HDDs in all their newer devices (*except the Mac Pro) are not user serviceable, no one should care about that because the new harddrive will be pre-loaded with an OS after you get it back from the Geniuses or AppleCare.
      - uxp 15y ago
        If you want to downvote, that's fine, but please provide an explanation. My comment was not derogatory, rude or against any of the HN guidelines. Recent iMacs have been known to have their harddrive fans spin at full after a stock harddisk is replaced with an aftermarket replacement. Rumor is circulating that recent MacBook and MacBook Pro models are similar. Apple has hijacked some unused SATA wires to use for onboard temperature control on their branded drives. Unless you have access to genuine apple parts, any harddrive replacement on those models of computers won't work well. http://blog.macsales.com/10146-apple-further-restricts-upgrade-options-on-new-imacs http://blog.macsales.com/10146-apple-further-restricts-upgra... Long story short: To Apple, Harddrives are not user servicable components, thus to Apple, "no one should care", because the computer will come back to the consumer after any repairs to a failed harddrive with a clean copy of the new OS. I don't agree with that, but this is how things will be. I'm just a messenger with an opinion.
        dazonic 15y ago
        No downvotes from me. I've had two iMac HDDs die, lots of friends' too. My heart sunk when I found out about special temp sensor, I live a long way from any Apple repair centre. As for Lion, it's anyone's guess whether we'll get a burnable/USBable DMG or not...
- cageface 15y ago
  How do you install it?
  - derefr 15y ago
    I haven't played with the Lion developer preview myself, but here's guessing: One of the "features" of Lion is a restore partition—I think that means a partition that is simply a copy of the install disc. That, combined with the fact that OSX has been able to in-place resize mounted volumes for a while now (originally coded for Boot Camp), makes me think that when Lion installer "app" starts, it simply makes 8GB of room at the beginning of your hard drive, writes its disc image there, then reboots into it.
  - ugh 15y ago
    You double click the installer.
masklinn 15y ago
> OS updates need to be on disc Nope. They can be on USB keys for starters, and you can reinstall to the previous version and re-update if the update is fast enough.
radicaldreamer 15y ago
10.6.8 is an update that prepares the app store to distribute OS updates. It makes a partition on your primary hard drive that you boot from to upgrade.
- lurker19 15y ago
  OK for PC users. What if you have a Mac and therefore a tiny hard drive that is full because you use iApps that refuse to read from external media?

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