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when did you turn into such a know-it-all patio? All I see from you is arrogant one liners for the last few months. It's been interesting seeing how your (mode

when did you turn into such a know-it-all patio? All I see from you is arrogant one liners for the last few months. It's been interesting seeing how your (modest) success has turned you into an asshole - shame really.

nupark2 15y ago
I agree with this sentiment, but not the expression of it.
- patio11 15y ago
  An open invitation: If you see me being glib and handwavy, please, ask for an elaboration. I have many faults. Insufficient desire to talk is not usually one of them. I'll happily write up 800 words on why SaaS means piracy vanishes overnight, but the short version is just as informative: pirating the client means you can pirate the service like "pirating" Firefox lets you pirate Basecamp. Do you want me to talk about the China angle and how essentially all games in China (and Korea before it) are currently "free to play" with property/boosts/etc maintained on the server? And how that model is going to become dominant in the US, too, because gamers are voting for it with their wallets?
melvinram 15y ago
Patios statement was that moving to SaaS model removes piracy. I see no asshole-ish nature and I'd bet it's 100% on the money, though I've never sold downloadables so I can't speak from experience. Let's stay above name calling. We're all adults here.
- asdkfj9876 15y ago
  His original comment was ok - its the delivery that sucks. Patio has developed a style that is abrasive. One liner statements of fact come off as assholish. My comment was meant to be constructive for him.
- ewald 15y ago
  And how could he move into SaaS? It's a simple game, not a business app. I think patio's advice doesn't help at all in this particular case.
  - gonk 15y ago
    Its a game that could very well be implemented in a similar fashion to csspivot.com
earl 15y ago
It's been interesting seeing how your (modest) success has turned you into an asshole - shame really. Perhaps when accusing patio11 of being an asshole -- which I don't believe to be the case -- you could try not being a snide asshole yourself with your "(modest)" remark? Plus, even a cursory scan of his comment stream ( http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=patio11 http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=patio11 ) disproves your assertion.
- asdkfj9876 15y ago
  I think in the grand scheme of things his success has been modest. Given this he should refrain from such cut-and-dried statements of fact. IMHO his opinion is valuable, but (by definition) restricted to his own experiences and doesn't constitute the be all and end all.

nupark2 15y ago

I agree with this sentiment, but not the expression of it.

patio11 15y ago
An open invitation: If you see me being glib and handwavy, please, ask for an elaboration. I have many faults. Insufficient desire to talk is not usually one of them. I'll happily write up 800 words on why SaaS means piracy vanishes overnight, but the short version is just as informative: pirating the client means you can pirate the service like "pirating" Firefox lets you pirate Basecamp. Do you want me to talk about the China angle and how essentially all games in China (and Korea before it) are currently "free to play" with property/boosts/etc maintained on the server? And how that model is going to become dominant in the US, too, because gamers are voting for it with their wallets?

melvinram 15y ago

Patios statement was that moving to SaaS model removes piracy. I see no asshole-ish nature and I'd bet it's 100% on the money, though I've never sold downloadables so I can't speak from experience. Let's stay above name calling. We're all adults here.

asdkfj9876 15y ago
His original comment was ok - its the delivery that sucks. Patio has developed a style that is abrasive. One liner statements of fact come off as assholish. My comment was meant to be constructive for him.
ewald 15y ago
And how could he move into SaaS? It's a simple game, not a business app. I think patio's advice doesn't help at all in this particular case.
- gonk 15y ago
  Its a game that could very well be implemented in a similar fashion to csspivot.com

earl 15y ago

It's been interesting seeing how your (modest) success has turned you into an asshole - shame really. Perhaps when accusing patio11 of being an asshole -- which I don't believe to be the case -- you could try not being a snide asshole yourself with your "(modest)" remark? Plus, even a cursory scan of his comment stream ( http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=patio11 http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=patio11 ) disproves your assertion.

asdkfj9876 15y ago
I think in the grand scheme of things his success has been modest. Given this he should refrain from such cut-and-dried statements of fact. IMHO his opinion is valuable, but (by definition) restricted to his own experiences and doesn't constitute the be all and end all.