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That is horse shit and we all know it. What bug takes 2k hours???? thats 250 work days. jesus christ, if I took that long to fix a bug, fire me. And yes, I'm a

That is horse shit and we all know it. What bug takes 2k hours???? thats 250 work days. jesus christ, if I took that long to fix a bug, fire me. And yes, I'm also talking about time to test, write/fix unit tests, write/fix integration tests, releasing into production, and data conversion.

adrianN 6y ago
You don't know the codebase. Even people who know a codebase have a hard time giving accurate estimates.
hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
Look at the description of the issue. It's really less of a bug and more of a feature request, in the sense that the legislature changed the rules for how "earned release credits" could be calculated. All of the details are here: https://corrections.az.gov/sites/default/files/documents/PDFs/1310_faq_0919.pdf https://corrections.az.gov/sites/default/files/documents/PDF... . Previously, it seems like there was a single standard, applied universally: 1 day of earned release credit for every 6 days served. The new rules have many more inputs, with lots of caveats: only certain offenses are eligible, and the inmate can not have been convicted of some other types of offenses, and the inmate must have completed some specific courses, and the inmate can't have previously been convicted of certain felonies. The 2k hours may very well be excessive, and I don't care if it takes 20k hours, it means they should mothball their software and do it manually if that's the case, but just calling it a "bug" is misleading IMO.
- curryst 6y ago
  Totally agree. Looking at this, it is substantially more complicated than it was before. I'm guessing up til now, the days of time off earned was done in real time. Basically all you need is the day they entered, divide by 6 and truncate and there's your days. If there are infractions that cost days, you could still probably do it in a single SQL query. This new system will have to know what kind of crime they committed, which might mean integrating with some byzantine government software from the 90s that looks like it's from the 70s. Previously they only really needed the prison system's records, which may or may not include their past crimes. I'm guessing they're worried the integration won't be as easy as proposed. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a month just to get the dev access to everything. I might even be surprised if it was that short.
m463 6y ago
It would sure get fixed if it was releasing prisoners early. You'd have the private prisons and the prison guards union climbing up everyone's posteriors.

adrianN 6y ago

You don't know the codebase. Even people who know a codebase have a hard time giving accurate estimates.

hn_throwaway_99 6y ago

Look at the description of the issue. It's really less of a bug and more of a feature request, in the sense that the legislature changed the rules for how "earned release credits" could be calculated. All of the details are here: https://corrections.az.gov/sites/default/files/documents/PDFs/1310_faq_0919.pdf https://corrections.az.gov/sites/default/files/documents/PDF... . Previously, it seems like there was a single standard, applied universally: 1 day of earned release credit for every 6 days served. The new rules have many more inputs, with lots of caveats: only certain offenses are eligible, and the inmate can not have been convicted of some other types of offenses, and the inmate must have completed some specific courses, and the inmate can't have previously been convicted of certain felonies. The 2k hours may very well be excessive, and I don't care if it takes 20k hours, it means they should mothball their software and do it manually if that's the case, but just calling it a "bug" is misleading IMO.

curryst 6y ago
Totally agree. Looking at this, it is substantially more complicated than it was before. I'm guessing up til now, the days of time off earned was done in real time. Basically all you need is the day they entered, divide by 6 and truncate and there's your days. If there are infractions that cost days, you could still probably do it in a single SQL query. This new system will have to know what kind of crime they committed, which might mean integrating with some byzantine government software from the 90s that looks like it's from the 70s. Previously they only really needed the prison system's records, which may or may not include their past crimes. I'm guessing they're worried the integration won't be as easy as proposed. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a month just to get the dev access to everything. I might even be surprised if it was that short.

m463 6y ago

It would sure get fixed if it was releasing prisoners early. You'd have the private prisons and the prison guards union climbing up everyone's posteriors.