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I'm surprised how misinformed you are. There's no law about flushing the toilet and even if there is, it's not easily enforceable. But then again there's fine f

by kokatoo 15y ago

I'm surprised how misinformed you are. There's no law about flushing the toilet and even if there is, it's not easily enforceable. But then again there's fine for littering, but then again it's hardly enforceable. No one is watching your back to make sure you throw your trash in the right place. You are just expected to be civil enough to do it. And btw, possessing drugs does not give you the death penalty. Smuggling does. Possessing drugs give you a relatively minor sentence like a few months to a few years in jail.

bluedanieru 15y ago
You shouldn't start a reply like that when you're wrong on both counts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore#Misuse_of_Drugs_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Singapore#Criminal_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Singapore#Criminal_law
- kokatoo 15y ago
  Ok if you want to go into such legal details I will try to accomodate. When I talked about possession of drugs, I am referring to possession of drugs for your own consumption and not for sale (or caught during drug trafficking). Check this out: http://www.mha.gov.sg/basic_content.aspx?pageid=74 http://www.mha.gov.sg/basic_content.aspx?pageid=74 (Search for "possesion") One of my recruit was caught with possession of drugs and I was ordered to escort him to court and to witness his sentence so that I could report back to my commanding officer. Then I learned that possession of drugs only constitute a minor offence and he only got 6 months of sentence. Turn out I was wrong about flushing the toilet! Good gracious...anyway I have never seen people get caught in Singapore for that neither seen signs saying it's against the law to do that. I have lived in Singapore for more than 30 years and have seen countless of unflushed toilets in "coffeeshops". As I have stated earlier, even if it's against the law it's not easily enforceable. Anyway if you want to go down to nitty gritty legal details, I have to nothing to say. Go to Singapore yourself and see it for yourself.
  - bluedanieru 15y ago
    It's not "legal details." It's mandatory death sentence for possession. And possession, regardless of the amount involved, is not proof of intent to sell. (And proof of intent to sell is not equivalent to actual sale, either, not to mention that such extreme separation of sale and possession is ridiculous.) In Singapore, you can die for possessing a key to a residence with drugs inside. In fact, if convicted, the law is that you must die. So I will not go see for myself, thanks.
    - kokatoo 15y ago
      To ease your fear further, this is quoted from the Ministry of Home Affairs website I showed earlier: "Furthermore, if the accused can prove to the court that he is a chronic abuser and would therefore need to be in possession of a greater amount of drugs for his own consumption, the trafficking charge may be reduced to one of possession of a controlled drug, which does not attract the death penalty." But then I do agree with the possibilities of a wrongful conviction. I am not a proponent of the death penalty myself but neither do I disagree with it at the same time. What I hope to do is to clear the exaggerated misinformation people have about Singapore.
- kokatoo 15y ago
  Oh and when I queried for "flush toilet crime" in Google, this came out as the first result: http://www.fongnet.net/stories/singmyths.htm http://www.fongnet.net/stories/singmyths.htm

by kokatoo 15y ago

bluedanieru 15y ago

You shouldn't start a reply like that when you're wrong on both counts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore#Misuse_of_Drugs_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Singapore#Criminal_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Singapore#Criminal_law

kokatoo 15y ago
Ok if you want to go into such legal details I will try to accomodate. When I talked about possession of drugs, I am referring to possession of drugs for your own consumption and not for sale (or caught during drug trafficking). Check this out: http://www.mha.gov.sg/basic_content.aspx?pageid=74 http://www.mha.gov.sg/basic_content.aspx?pageid=74 (Search for "possesion") One of my recruit was caught with possession of drugs and I was ordered to escort him to court and to witness his sentence so that I could report back to my commanding officer. Then I learned that possession of drugs only constitute a minor offence and he only got 6 months of sentence. Turn out I was wrong about flushing the toilet! Good gracious...anyway I have never seen people get caught in Singapore for that neither seen signs saying it's against the law to do that. I have lived in Singapore for more than 30 years and have seen countless of unflushed toilets in "coffeeshops". As I have stated earlier, even if it's against the law it's not easily enforceable. Anyway if you want to go down to nitty gritty legal details, I have to nothing to say. Go to Singapore yourself and see it for yourself.
- bluedanieru 15y ago
  It's not "legal details." It's mandatory death sentence for possession. And possession, regardless of the amount involved, is not proof of intent to sell. (And proof of intent to sell is not equivalent to actual sale, either, not to mention that such extreme separation of sale and possession is ridiculous.) In Singapore, you can die for possessing a key to a residence with drugs inside. In fact, if convicted, the law is that you must die. So I will not go see for myself, thanks.
  - kokatoo 15y ago
    To ease your fear further, this is quoted from the Ministry of Home Affairs website I showed earlier: "Furthermore, if the accused can prove to the court that he is a chronic abuser and would therefore need to be in possession of a greater amount of drugs for his own consumption, the trafficking charge may be reduced to one of possession of a controlled drug, which does not attract the death penalty." But then I do agree with the possibilities of a wrongful conviction. I am not a proponent of the death penalty myself but neither do I disagree with it at the same time. What I hope to do is to clear the exaggerated misinformation people have about Singapore.
kokatoo 15y ago
Oh and when I queried for "flush toilet crime" in Google, this came out as the first result: http://www.fongnet.net/stories/singmyths.htm http://www.fongnet.net/stories/singmyths.htm