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I'm in Hungary and I wish I can get an AstraZeneca vaccine or Moderna or Pfizer. The fact that our government pushing the russian and chinese vaccines so hard i

I'm in Hungary and I wish I can get an AstraZeneca vaccine or Moderna or Pfizer. The fact that our government pushing the russian and chinese vaccines so hard is the really worrying thing but the general european news outlets yet to pick that up (on the other hand it's a small country)

detaro 6y ago
Fairly sure there has been some reporting about this here in Germany, but very much in the general small updates bucket of news.
- rini17 6y ago
  Happens in Czechia and Slovakia too. In Slovakia the russian vaccine is championed by prime minister, despite there is no information at all about the vaccine side effects, efficiency, etc... in short, no certification process at all. I think EU is in for a rude awakening about the extent of Russian hybrid warfare in these countries and whole Balkans.
  - akmarinov 6y ago
    The Russian vaccine isn’t certified by the EMA yet, so they can’t really use it in the EU.
    - dogma1138 6y ago
      The EMA cannot prevent a member state from approving vaccines on their own.
  - gtt 6y ago
    This is just pure fud. Is lancet on this hybrid warfare, too? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00234-8/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)31866-3/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)31866-3/full...
    - rini17 6y ago
      Yes it is a part of, the mixing of truth and lies. Russians did not do anything more than this research with 76 subjects. That is very poor basis for introducing any medication. They did not even apply for EMA certification in the EU like all other manufacturers, just posted some 5 year old screenshot "but we applied". https://www.politico.eu/article/mystery-deepens-over-russian-sputnik-coronavirus-vaccine-makers-regulation-filing/ https://www.politico.eu/article/mystery-deepens-over-russian...
      - gtt 6y ago
        76? I mean have you even looked at the lancet link I've given? "Between Sept 7 and Nov 24, 2020, 21 977 adults were randomly assigned to the vaccine group (n=16 501) or the placebo group (n=5476)."
        rini17 6y ago
        Ah the other link. So they can expect no problem with certification, why they don't do it?
Ambix 6y ago
As I know, Sputnik is cheaper and safer than Pfizer, but not as effective (92% vs 96%).

detaro 6y ago

Fairly sure there has been some reporting about this here in Germany, but very much in the general small updates bucket of news.

rini17 6y ago
Happens in Czechia and Slovakia too. In Slovakia the russian vaccine is championed by prime minister, despite there is no information at all about the vaccine side effects, efficiency, etc... in short, no certification process at all. I think EU is in for a rude awakening about the extent of Russian hybrid warfare in these countries and whole Balkans.
- akmarinov 6y ago
  The Russian vaccine isn’t certified by the EMA yet, so they can’t really use it in the EU.
  - dogma1138 6y ago
    The EMA cannot prevent a member state from approving vaccines on their own.
- gtt 6y ago
  This is just pure fud. Is lancet on this hybrid warfare, too? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00234-8/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)31866-3/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(20)31866-3/full...
  - rini17 6y ago
    Yes it is a part of, the mixing of truth and lies. Russians did not do anything more than this research with 76 subjects. That is very poor basis for introducing any medication. They did not even apply for EMA certification in the EU like all other manufacturers, just posted some 5 year old screenshot "but we applied". https://www.politico.eu/article/mystery-deepens-over-russian-sputnik-coronavirus-vaccine-makers-regulation-filing/ https://www.politico.eu/article/mystery-deepens-over-russian...
    - gtt 6y ago
      76? I mean have you even looked at the lancet link I've given? "Between Sept 7 and Nov 24, 2020, 21 977 adults were randomly assigned to the vaccine group (n=16 501) or the placebo group (n=5476)."
      - rini17 6y ago
        Ah the other link. So they can expect no problem with certification, why they don't do it?

Ambix 6y ago

As I know, Sputnik is cheaper and safer than Pfizer, but not as effective (92% vs 96%).