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That’s great and all but for people who are gamers or doing heavy work with the GPU they’re going to be plugged into power most of the time. I’d rather have a

That’s great and all but for people who are gamers or doing heavy work with the GPU they’re going to be plugged into power most of the time. I’d rather have a chip that scales to high performance when plugged in and lower GPU performance when I’m on say an airplane or in a cafe, then one whose GPU performance is a half decade behind.

faeriechangling 6y ago
You're bringing up a limitation of the current tech, that it tethers you to a wall, to speak against this new tech. Does a student who has a gap between classes always want to find an outlet somewhere and deal with their computer sounding like it's about to liftoff? Does the video editor offloading some of their workload to GPU always want to find an outlet? Apple is selling super quiet hypermobile performance here, I see them as occupying a niche with no real competition.
- cromwellian 6y ago
  A lot of those students are using Chromebooks, which will get nothing but not cheaper. Video editors almost always want large monitors and top performance. Show me someone who works as a professional video editor who does it on a laptop screen. The best argument you could make for the MacBook in this regard is for developers who might be working as nomads, and musicians who often lug their machines to their gigs. But for someone doing heavy 3D, video, or gaming? I just don't see it. The M1 can't even run Tomb Raider above 30 fps. It's a 2 year old game, and isn't even that impressive. A GTX 1080 will yield 2x-3x that performance: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/18 https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9... I'm just saying, they got a long way to go before that capture the hardcore gamer or 3D rendering market.
  - faeriechangling 6y ago
    >Show me someone who works as a professional video editor who does it on a laptop screen. I know a videographer who worked for news wire services who did just this and did his job on a MacBook sometimes on site. Helped him deliver news content faster. I don't think video editing on a MBP directly is as rare as you might assume. No doubt that Mac's haven't turnee into ideal gaming machines, but I've gamed on ultraportables with a lot less GPU than this, I just never played a game like Tomb Raider.

faeriechangling 6y ago

You're bringing up a limitation of the current tech, that it tethers you to a wall, to speak against this new tech. Does a student who has a gap between classes always want to find an outlet somewhere and deal with their computer sounding like it's about to liftoff? Does the video editor offloading some of their workload to GPU always want to find an outlet? Apple is selling super quiet hypermobile performance here, I see them as occupying a niche with no real competition.

cromwellian 6y ago
A lot of those students are using Chromebooks, which will get nothing but not cheaper. Video editors almost always want large monitors and top performance. Show me someone who works as a professional video editor who does it on a laptop screen. The best argument you could make for the MacBook in this regard is for developers who might be working as nomads, and musicians who often lug their machines to their gigs. But for someone doing heavy 3D, video, or gaming? I just don't see it. The M1 can't even run Tomb Raider above 30 fps. It's a 2 year old game, and isn't even that impressive. A GTX 1080 will yield 2x-3x that performance: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/18 https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9... I'm just saying, they got a long way to go before that capture the hardcore gamer or 3D rendering market.
- faeriechangling 6y ago
  >Show me someone who works as a professional video editor who does it on a laptop screen. I know a videographer who worked for news wire services who did just this and did his job on a MacBook sometimes on site. Helped him deliver news content faster. I don't think video editing on a MBP directly is as rare as you might assume. No doubt that Mac's haven't turnee into ideal gaming machines, but I've gamed on ultraportables with a lot less GPU than this, I just never played a game like Tomb Raider.