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Apple Surpassed Samsung as Largest Smartphone Maker in Fourth Quarter

22 points by finphil 6y ago

culopatin 6y ago
I think 5G only matters to the big companies at this point.I have it disabled in my iPhone. I moved from Android to iPhone after work gave me one and I was amazed by the battery life. What had annoyed me of Android for years was the fragmentation, apps that are always kinda broken to support some 2mhz cpu in India. Camera issues all the time, leading to losing unique shots. And because there is no integration between Android and anything else. iPhone at least offers a decent option to integrate with a desktop/laptop, even if that’s only with Macs/iPads. The ecosystem is nice, and there is no ecosystem competition. Also I haven’t had any interest in playing with ROMs for 7 years. I know I don’t hold the truth but nowhere there is 5G (which is going the opposite direction battery wise). From the people I’ve talked to, battery, “it just works “ and “I had one for 5 years before I had to replace it” come much higher than 5G
- Terretta 6y ago
  Think about this “just works” feedback, versus all the noise (mostly from Android, Linux and Windows users, though not sure why non-users’ opinion is relevant) demanding Apple break up the work they did to build an end-to-end ecosystem experience, demanding Apple “fragment” it. Seems relatively clear that curated experience is the value prop. I guess if someone is not in that ecosystem, makes sense to insist on breaking it up, so they don’t have to compete with it.
  - fatnoah 6y ago
    I've carried an iPhone and an Android (some variety of Pixel) for the past several years. I use them both heavily for work and I feel like the main difference between the two is that the Android phone fails in more obvious ways, such as the occasional momentary freeze or an app crash dialog appearing. Stuff on the iPhone seems to fail more subtly, such as data not loading properly or an app silently crashing and restarting in a way that doesn't seem like a crash, just the loss of state in whatever app I was in.
    - danlugo92 6y ago
      Android is also jerky, stutters in animations, suffers from bitrot and lack of cohetive design across different developers.
- sanp 6y ago
  Also, the performance gap between flagship Samsung and iPhone (even 8) is now just too large to ignore.
  - llampx 6y ago
    Does the raw CPU power matter that much on a phone? Google decided to even go the other way and put in a mid-range chip into their Pixel lineup, eschewing the usual high-end Snapdragon 800 series the Pixels used to have.
    - culopatin 6y ago
      I never cared for the power of the CPU unless that means quicker photo processing. The CPU in my iPhone 12 now acts the same as my GFs 2020 SE or my works XR. All I cared about is not taking bad pictures. Coming from the pixel, it’s not that much different but the success rate is much more stable. With the pixel you never know if the camera will fail that day or not. Or take 10 seconds to open, or 15, or not save the picture.
mensetmanusman 6y ago
Locations where Apple has monopoly or duopoly status (as defined by citizens, etc.) should prepare for a battle over who decides what belongs in the ‘public commons.’ This is especially true now that covid has removed physical commons and we now entirely rely on digital commons. It would be a strange thing for society to ask a corporation to govern what should or should not be free speech in the only public common available. The public, in providing a society wherein Apple accumulates such power (and profits) deserves some semblance of a voice I presume?

22 points by finphil 6y ago

I think 5G only matters to the big companies at this point.I have it disabled in my iPhone. I moved from Android to iPhone after work gave me one and I was amazed by the battery life. What had annoyed me of Android for years was the fragmentation, apps that are always kinda broken to support some 2mhz cpu in India. Camera issues all the time, leading to losing unique shots. And because there is no integration between Android and anything else. iPhone at least offers a decent option to integrate with a desktop/laptop, even if that’s only with Macs/iPads. The ecosystem is nice, and there is no ecosystem competition. Also I haven’t had any interest in playing with ROMs for 7 years. I know I don’t hold the truth but nowhere there is 5G (which is going the opposite direction battery wise). From the people I’ve talked to, battery, “it just works “ and “I had one for 5 years before I had to replace it” come much higher than 5G

Terretta 6y ago
Think about this “just works” feedback, versus all the noise (mostly from Android, Linux and Windows users, though not sure why non-users’ opinion is relevant) demanding Apple break up the work they did to build an end-to-end ecosystem experience, demanding Apple “fragment” it. Seems relatively clear that curated experience is the value prop. I guess if someone is not in that ecosystem, makes sense to insist on breaking it up, so they don’t have to compete with it.
- fatnoah 6y ago
  I've carried an iPhone and an Android (some variety of Pixel) for the past several years. I use them both heavily for work and I feel like the main difference between the two is that the Android phone fails in more obvious ways, such as the occasional momentary freeze or an app crash dialog appearing. Stuff on the iPhone seems to fail more subtly, such as data not loading properly or an app silently crashing and restarting in a way that doesn't seem like a crash, just the loss of state in whatever app I was in.
  - danlugo92 6y ago
    Android is also jerky, stutters in animations, suffers from bitrot and lack of cohetive design across different developers.
sanp 6y ago
Also, the performance gap between flagship Samsung and iPhone (even 8) is now just too large to ignore.
- llampx 6y ago
  Does the raw CPU power matter that much on a phone? Google decided to even go the other way and put in a mid-range chip into their Pixel lineup, eschewing the usual high-end Snapdragon 800 series the Pixels used to have.
  - culopatin 6y ago
    I never cared for the power of the CPU unless that means quicker photo processing. The CPU in my iPhone 12 now acts the same as my GFs 2020 SE or my works XR. All I cared about is not taking bad pictures. Coming from the pixel, it’s not that much different but the success rate is much more stable. With the pixel you never know if the camera will fail that day or not. Or take 10 seconds to open, or 15, or not save the picture.

mensetmanusman 6y ago

Locations where Apple has monopoly or duopoly status (as defined by citizens, etc.) should prepare for a battle over who decides what belongs in the ‘public commons.’ This is especially true now that covid has removed physical commons and we now entirely rely on digital commons. It would be a strange thing for society to ask a corporation to govern what should or should not be free speech in the only public common available. The public, in providing a society wherein Apple accumulates such power (and profits) deserves some semblance of a voice I presume?