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The numbers from Israel seem to show the 60+ age group that has been vaccinated with two doses is seeing a sharp drop in hospital admissions compared to the und

by Guest19023892 6y ago

The numbers from Israel seem to show the 60+ age group that has been vaccinated with two doses is seeing a sharp drop in hospital admissions compared to the under 60 group that is still mostly unvaccinated. This should rule out the herd immunity and seasonality arguments. https://i.imgur.com/Tu3ckZN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Tu3ckZN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1eP5sbi.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1eP5sbi.jpg

paganel 6y ago
I would have expected even lower hospital admission numbers for the 60+ population, I mean taking into consideration that almost 80% of them have already been vaccinated.
- Lewton 6y ago
  Older people with COVID bad enough that they end up in the hospital usually stay there for 3-6 weeks
  - dboreham 6y ago
    Data from personal friends contradicts this. 2-8 days in my sample.
    - iso1631 6y ago
      That's called an annectdote. https://www.kpcnews.com/covid-19/article_8ab408ad-8fb0-5f74-8d57-11e586bd8a4f.html https://www.kpcnews.com/covid-19/article_8ab408ad-8fb0-5f74-... Overall, the average hospital stay for COVID-19 for all ages is 22.4 days, just over three weeks. The length of stay is slightly longer, 23.5 days, for regular hospital admissions and shorter for ICU patients at 16 days, likely because ICU patients go on to die in the hospital. That's based over thousands of patients. > Patients in their 50s, who make up the third largest group of hospitalizations at 17.8% of all admissions, have, to date, had the longest average hospital stays at 27.5 days on average. > Older patients have slightly lower average stays than middle-aged Hoosiers — again, likely because they are more prone to die in care than younger patients > The average stays for patients in their 30s is 16.4 days
      - dboreham 6y ago
        > That's called an annectdote. Oh look: this data matches my annecdote(sic): https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01726-3/figures/4 https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s1291...
        iso1631 6y ago
        That study specifically says "There were too few studies to conduct any comparison by age or disease severity. " It also dates back from a year ago, under very different circumstances to today
pipeoperator 6y ago
This appears to be similar to what’s being seen in Scotland: deaths in the over 85 age group dropping sharply compared to younger age groups. BBC Scotland article has some more data on the progress of the vaccine rollout and the impact it’s having on outcomes: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56097899 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56097899

paganel 6y ago

I would have expected even lower hospital admission numbers for the 60+ population, I mean taking into consideration that almost 80% of them have already been vaccinated.

Lewton 6y ago
Older people with COVID bad enough that they end up in the hospital usually stay there for 3-6 weeks
- dboreham 6y ago
  Data from personal friends contradicts this. 2-8 days in my sample.
  - iso1631 6y ago
    That's called an annectdote. https://www.kpcnews.com/covid-19/article_8ab408ad-8fb0-5f74-8d57-11e586bd8a4f.html https://www.kpcnews.com/covid-19/article_8ab408ad-8fb0-5f74-... Overall, the average hospital stay for COVID-19 for all ages is 22.4 days, just over three weeks. The length of stay is slightly longer, 23.5 days, for regular hospital admissions and shorter for ICU patients at 16 days, likely because ICU patients go on to die in the hospital. That's based over thousands of patients. > Patients in their 50s, who make up the third largest group of hospitalizations at 17.8% of all admissions, have, to date, had the longest average hospital stays at 27.5 days on average. > Older patients have slightly lower average stays than middle-aged Hoosiers — again, likely because they are more prone to die in care than younger patients > The average stays for patients in their 30s is 16.4 days
    - dboreham 6y ago
      > That's called an annectdote. Oh look: this data matches my annecdote(sic): https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01726-3/figures/4 https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s1291...
      - iso1631 6y ago
        That study specifically says "There were too few studies to conduct any comparison by age or disease severity. " It also dates back from a year ago, under very different circumstances to today

pipeoperator 6y ago

This appears to be similar to what’s being seen in Scotland: deaths in the over 85 age group dropping sharply compared to younger age groups. BBC Scotland article has some more data on the progress of the vaccine rollout and the impact it’s having on outcomes: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56097899 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56097899