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Oh sorry, is South Korea in the ‘everything is going great’ list again? Last thing I remember they were in their third wave with restrictions for 3 months alrea

Oh sorry, is South Korea in the ‘everything is going great’ list again? Last thing I remember they were in their third wave with restrictions for 3 months already. They must have forgotten how to wear their magical masks.

acdha 6y ago
Again, the only people saying masks are magic are people like you who took an anti-science position and haven’t been willing to admit being wrong. They reduce cases but they’re not perfect, which is why some activities like indoor dining are inherently risky until we have widespread vaccination. Currently, South Korea is showing 9 cases per million versus hundreds in most of Europe, the US, etc. so we’re still talking about many thousands of deaths avoided by keeping spread 1-2 orders of magnitude lower. If you only care about the economy, ask how much money in treatment that’s saved or the lifetime economic output of the people who died early. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/south-korea https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/south-korea
- tinus_hn 6y ago
  > They reduce cases but they’re not perfect, Which is why the statement ‘if only we had worn the masks’ is false. And I don’t personally care but it is a sneaky way of turning people against each other and a way to avoid responsibility: If you’re a government which has wasted billions on lockdowns and it hasn’t helped, how convenient is it to shift the blame to all these silly anti-maskers. And I mind you, I am not anti science and I am not anti masks. I am against the statement ‘if only they had worn the masks.’ About half a year ago scientific ’authorities’ here said that if you get infected you must have done something against the measures, insinuating it was your own fault. That kind of stopped now that hospital workers turn out to get infected all the time. Are they anti-maskers? Do they not know how to avoid contact? Are they careless? Or is it unavoidable? To accept that, we also have to accept that you can’t get away with simply blaming everything on anti-science noncompliance.

acdha 6y ago

Again, the only people saying masks are magic are people like you who took an anti-science position and haven’t been willing to admit being wrong. They reduce cases but they’re not perfect, which is why some activities like indoor dining are inherently risky until we have widespread vaccination. Currently, South Korea is showing 9 cases per million versus hundreds in most of Europe, the US, etc. so we’re still talking about many thousands of deaths avoided by keeping spread 1-2 orders of magnitude lower. If you only care about the economy, ask how much money in treatment that’s saved or the lifetime economic output of the people who died early. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/south-korea https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/south-korea

tinus_hn 6y ago
> They reduce cases but they’re not perfect, Which is why the statement ‘if only we had worn the masks’ is false. And I don’t personally care but it is a sneaky way of turning people against each other and a way to avoid responsibility: If you’re a government which has wasted billions on lockdowns and it hasn’t helped, how convenient is it to shift the blame to all these silly anti-maskers. And I mind you, I am not anti science and I am not anti masks. I am against the statement ‘if only they had worn the masks.’ About half a year ago scientific ’authorities’ here said that if you get infected you must have done something against the measures, insinuating it was your own fault. That kind of stopped now that hospital workers turn out to get infected all the time. Are they anti-maskers? Do they not know how to avoid contact? Are they careless? Or is it unavoidable? To accept that, we also have to accept that you can’t get away with simply blaming everything on anti-science noncompliance.