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Sometimes the greatest thing for many people is the ability to choose fortune over fame.

by HelloFellowDevs 6y ago

weinzierl 6y ago
It's the fallacy of the C-list celebrity to realize too late that fame does not easily convert to fortune.
- rkangel 6y ago
  I think many people go out seeking fame as goal in it's own right.
  - Mountain_Skies 6y ago
    Saw a podcast by the guy who played Lex Luthor on Smallville. He pretty much admitted to being a Narcissist who is addicted to attention. Good that he has self-awareness but many seek fame and attention without really understanding why they're doing it. Had a friend like that who was an otherwise wonderful person but her need for attention culminated in her being arrested for faking an attack on herself while hiking. It's a difficult need to control without awareness.
- ForHackernews 6y ago
  I guess it depends how rich you aspire to be. If you have a a million social media followers, it's trivial to cash in on that attention to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
  - fxtentacle 6y ago
    except if you try to sell t-shirts? https://www.insider.com/instagrammer-arii-2-million-followers-cannot-sell-36-t-shirts-2019-5 https://www.insider.com/instagrammer-arii-2-million-follower...
    - ForHackernews 6y ago
      According to this https://www.influencer.agency/instagram-influencer-rates/ https://www.influencer.agency/instagram-influencer-rates/ it's ~$10k for a campaign from an influencer with 1M+ followers. Make ten deals like that per year, that's $100,000k.
      - Tarsul 6y ago
        I don't believe those numbers (the site it comes from has interest in telling people that influencer marketing is worth much, so grain of salt.). But anyway, even if they would be true today, they won't hold tomororow because everyone gets more followers but not more attention. Also, it's a "winner takes all" market like all media. Still, if you're famous today I bet it's easier than ever to make at least SOME money out of it due to social media and the ability to cut off a lot of middle man.
      - jandrese 6y ago
        You have to repeat that once a month to break into the middle class, assuming you have to pay for all your own healthcare, retirement, insurance, etc... What a dismal existence.
        ForHackernews 6y ago
        You mean once a month you have to make some social media posts? You conside that a "dismal existence". I know it's almost a cliche to point out HN users being out of touch with normal people, but have you ever had a real job that didn't involve sitting in a climate controlled office typing on a computer?
        ryanbrunner 6y ago
        Despite the low effort though, being entirely reliant on online fame isn't exactly something with a lot of longevity built into it. Having 1MM followers this year is nowhere near a guarantee of growing or even keeping your follower base the next year. $100K doesn't seem like a particularly amazing payoff for that. Most "real jobs" tend to become more stable and lucrative as you gain experience. I'd definitely prefer a job that paid $50K that I could at least somewhat rely on to exist next year over $100K that could disappear at any second.

Sometimes the greatest thing for many people is the ability to choose fortune over fame.

weinzierl 6y ago

It's the fallacy of the C-list celebrity to realize too late that fame does not easily convert to fortune.

rkangel 6y ago
I think many people go out seeking fame as goal in it's own right.
- Mountain_Skies 6y ago
  Saw a podcast by the guy who played Lex Luthor on Smallville. He pretty much admitted to being a Narcissist who is addicted to attention. Good that he has self-awareness but many seek fame and attention without really understanding why they're doing it. Had a friend like that who was an otherwise wonderful person but her need for attention culminated in her being arrested for faking an attack on herself while hiking. It's a difficult need to control without awareness.
ForHackernews 6y ago
I guess it depends how rich you aspire to be. If you have a a million social media followers, it's trivial to cash in on that attention to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
- fxtentacle 6y ago
  except if you try to sell t-shirts? https://www.insider.com/instagrammer-arii-2-million-followers-cannot-sell-36-t-shirts-2019-5 https://www.insider.com/instagrammer-arii-2-million-follower...
  - ForHackernews 6y ago
    According to this https://www.influencer.agency/instagram-influencer-rates/ https://www.influencer.agency/instagram-influencer-rates/ it's ~$10k for a campaign from an influencer with 1M+ followers. Make ten deals like that per year, that's $100,000k.
    - Tarsul 6y ago
      I don't believe those numbers (the site it comes from has interest in telling people that influencer marketing is worth much, so grain of salt.). But anyway, even if they would be true today, they won't hold tomororow because everyone gets more followers but not more attention. Also, it's a "winner takes all" market like all media. Still, if you're famous today I bet it's easier than ever to make at least SOME money out of it due to social media and the ability to cut off a lot of middle man.
    - jandrese 6y ago
      You have to repeat that once a month to break into the middle class, assuming you have to pay for all your own healthcare, retirement, insurance, etc... What a dismal existence.
      - ForHackernews 6y ago
        You mean once a month you have to make some social media posts? You conside that a "dismal existence". I know it's almost a cliche to point out HN users being out of touch with normal people, but have you ever had a real job that didn't involve sitting in a climate controlled office typing on a computer?
        ryanbrunner 6y ago
        Despite the low effort though, being entirely reliant on online fame isn't exactly something with a lot of longevity built into it. Having 1MM followers this year is nowhere near a guarantee of growing or even keeping your follower base the next year. $100K doesn't seem like a particularly amazing payoff for that. Most "real jobs" tend to become more stable and lucrative as you gain experience. I'd definitely prefer a job that paid $50K that I could at least somewhat rely on to exist next year over $100K that could disappear at any second.