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Javascript + HTML5 is a a pretty ideal view layer, but MS almost certainly will need to provide a higher level story like GWT to satisfy their developers and su

by equark 15y ago

Javascript + HTML5 is a a pretty ideal view layer, but MS almost certainly will need to provide a higher level story like GWT to satisfy their developers and support large teams. Google has shifted entirely to GWT over hand-coded javascript for their applications. It seems unlikely that MS would have worse tooling than Google, particularly given that MS can leverage their development tools (.NET + future compiler as a service). Is there any information on what development model MS is thinking about?

azakai 15y ago
> Google has shifted entirely to GWT over hand-coded javascript for their applications. Interesting. Source? > It seems unlikely that MS would have worse tooling than Google, particularly given that MS can leverage their development tools (.NET + future compiler as a service). It would not be hard to build a .NET to JS compiler as a parallel to GWT. In fact there are already a few such projects, one of them even a Microsoft one (Volta). I would not be surprised to see Microsoft put some effort behind such a project. However there have been no indications so far.
- equark 15y ago
  No source. Just look at every new product they release. All of them that started post GWT are based on GWT as far as I can tell. The new AdWords interface being the latest and Wave coming before that. Even small apps, like their new discovery API browser are GWT based. It makes sense too. They need to support long-run development of large applications. That just becomes much easier given something like GWT and all the associated tooling that comes with it.
- junkyarddog 15y ago
  For the F# developer, WebSharper ( http://websharper.com/ http://websharper.com/ ) seems to offer a great implementation based on the Formlets abstraction. For some theoretical background, have a look at http://groups.inf.ed.ac.uk/links/formlets/ http://groups.inf.ed.ac.uk/links/formlets/ which has some articles describing the Form abstraction by Philip Wadler, et al.

by equark 15y ago

azakai 15y ago

> Google has shifted entirely to GWT over hand-coded javascript for their applications. Interesting. Source? > It seems unlikely that MS would have worse tooling than Google, particularly given that MS can leverage their development tools (.NET + future compiler as a service). It would not be hard to build a .NET to JS compiler as a parallel to GWT. In fact there are already a few such projects, one of them even a Microsoft one (Volta). I would not be surprised to see Microsoft put some effort behind such a project. However there have been no indications so far.

equark 15y ago
No source. Just look at every new product they release. All of them that started post GWT are based on GWT as far as I can tell. The new AdWords interface being the latest and Wave coming before that. Even small apps, like their new discovery API browser are GWT based. It makes sense too. They need to support long-run development of large applications. That just becomes much easier given something like GWT and all the associated tooling that comes with it.
junkyarddog 15y ago
For the F# developer, WebSharper ( http://websharper.com/ http://websharper.com/ ) seems to offer a great implementation based on the Formlets abstraction. For some theoretical background, have a look at http://groups.inf.ed.ac.uk/links/formlets/ http://groups.inf.ed.ac.uk/links/formlets/ which has some articles describing the Form abstraction by Philip Wadler, et al.