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Both artists are under 50. I would not be at all surprised if you get the chance to see them perform together again.

buro9 6y ago
And with the added advantage that as they are electric they'd sound as good in the future as they did in the past. You wouldn't even know if it wasn't them under the masks. The counter point being that I saw Velvet Underground live and they sucked badly :D
- schwartzworld 6y ago
  I went to a smashing pumpkins show and was so turned off that I stopped being a fan. I have met several others with the same experience
  - JansjoFromIkea 6y ago
    What was the issue? Was it the length of the show, the aura of Billy Corgan (and his horrific aesthetics), renditions that somehow made the original versions worse? Guy was obviously talented but I don't think he's the best judge of his strengths. There's a couple of songs from Adore and Machina where the music videos manage to make the songs drastically worse for me.
    - schwartzworld 6y ago
      You pretty much nailed it. This was on the Melon Collie tour.
      - hluska 6y ago
        I saw them play Mellon Collie too. Did they play their > 25 minute version of XYU? Christ, everyone but Billy Corgan was bored 15 minutes into that but it just kept going and going and going...
  - saalweachter 6y ago
    Since I don't go to live shows, I tend to just have the disappointment of finding out that I only like some of my favorite bands' albums, because the arc of their own musical careers doesn't match my own tastes. Why can't performers just stay the same forever, producing a never-ending sequence of similar but distinct works?
    - triceratops 6y ago
      > Why can't performers just stay the same forever, producing a never-ending sequence of similar but distinct works? Because they're artists. Even the record company-manufactured acts consider themselves artists. On a human level, they're already performing the same pieces of music thousands of times - in rehearsals, concerts, recordings. It must get incredibly tedious after a while. You want them to write the same type of music all their lives as well? You monster! :-P
    - egypturnash 6y ago
      Some do! Some don't. There is one English psychedelic outfit I like called "Ozric Tentacles". Every album is pretty much identical. And it turns out that I really like that album, so I have bought it ten times over the years, plus a couple of live albums. This happens in part because whenever the people behind Ozric Tentacles want to make something different from their trademark sound, they'll usually put it out under another name. If you go to their site right now the front page advertises recent albums from two different side projects with even sillier names than "Ozric Tentacles". (The Ozrics are far from the only band to do this, they're just the first example that comes to mind.) There are other bands I like where every album is something different. King Crimson, for instance, is a different lineup for pretty much every album. Same bandleader, some people return to perform in multiple incarnations of the band, some are only there for one album and some tour dates. I love some of their albums and some are flat for me. I'd still grab another one if I heard that Fripp had declared that the current assemblage of musicians he was working with was an incarnation of King Crimson, because the albums that work for me work really well. If it's a dud I just consider it a down payment on the next hit.
      - saalweachter 6y ago
  - mynameisash 6y ago
    The Pumpkins were my absolute favorite band in the heyday of 90s alt rock/grunge. I saw them once in St. Paul during their Adore tour, and it was amazing. But something about their music just didn't seem to age well with me - which very well may have been my tastes changing versus the band. I don't know. Machina didn't click, and I never really got into Zeitgeist or Oceania. I did buy Rotten Apples and enjoyed it immensely, but it was their older music. Whenever I watch one of their music videos on YouTube, it's very bittersweet. I still love their older work - MCIS and Adore are absolutely wonderful. But it's the universal story of losing your adolescence. I didn't really get into Daft Punk until the early 2000s, so my context was very different. I'm still sad to see this breakup, but I guess I don't feel it the same as SP. Funny, that.
    - ilikepi 6y ago
      Yep, very similar experience here. I find listening to music from that time period just makes me melancholy (err...no pun intended), so I mostly avoid it now. I'm not sure if this is because it brings me back to that time, or if it's the general mood of the music itself...probably both. I guess it makes sense that the music of a given time would reflect the general mood of the people coming of age at that time. I don't know where else to go with that thought...ah whatever. ;) EDIT: fix typo, because of course
    - soylentcola 6y ago
      I guess it's another example of "when you got into a band" as seen throughout this thread. Saw them at my first "big" concert at Lollapalooza 1994. 17 years old and it was the coolest crap I'd ever seen. Gish is awesome and Siamese Dream will always hold a special place in my heart, but I always felt like Mellon Collie was the start of Corgan's long, slow descent into self-indulgence. If Siamese Dream was their Appetite for Destruction, Mellon Collie was Use Your Illusion (two parter at that!) I guess you could do worse, though since both are solid. And I guess Lies would be analogous to that album with the Stevie Nicks cover.
    - mjgs 6y ago
      Smashing Pumpkins were the best in the early nineties. Gish and especially Siamese Dream are great albums. I saw them at some festivals around then. Amazing. I still get chills when I hear the guitar intro on some of the tracks from those albums. I saw them during some of their later tours and though they were great gigs, I think I had drifted away from their music and in fact the whole scene. I was getting into electronic music in the late 90s.
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- Swizec 6y ago
  I saw Guns’n’Roses at a festival in 2012 and ho boy did Axl Rose not age well. The Slash impersonator was kinda odd too – obviously great guitarist in his own right, all he needed was to own the fact he’s not Slash.
  - dandersh 6y ago
    I'm guessing you're referring to DJ Ashba? One thing about GnR is they always had talented guitarists. Yea Axl's voice definitely isn't what it once was. Corey Glover (Living Colour) is another singer from that time period whose voice isn't the same.
- coldsmoke 6y ago
  It feels like they're also prime candidates for making a tour with them as actual robots (or holograms), so they wouldn't even need to tour themselves.
- pvarangot 6y ago
  A good live performance from an artist like that is all about visual and rhythmic synchronization with the lights and the dancing audience and about live EQ and effects tuned to the sound system in the venue. So no, it won't be the same. If you get utterly fucked up with perception altering substances it won't really matter though.
pardonmesir 6y ago
one just fucking exploded! did you not see that!?
- lupin3ken 6y ago
  This comment made the thread for me.
hypersoar 6y ago
I didn't go in the past because I'd heard their shows had a rave-like atmosphere. I have no idea if that's true, but it put me off. But maybe I won't have to worry about that so much when I'm one of a bunch of middle-aged people at a reunion concert by Daft Punk in their 60s.
- ihuman 6y ago
  There are plenty of videos of Alive 2007 on youtube if you want to see how rave-like they are.
  - senor_lecce 6y ago
    Probably the best live gig I've been to.
- devin 6y ago
  What’s wrong with a rave-like atmosphere? Live a little.
  - zeruch 6y ago
    Some folks don't like to deal with a swarming mass of tweaked out people. They just don't. As someone who survived early 90s acid house and rave culture in the Bay Area, people falling over, spilling things on you, or being rambling goofs for hours on end had a limited life span. Frankly, a mosh pit was more comfortable, because there you at least KNEW what was expected and how to counter.
    - sev 6y ago
      While many raves are like that, many others are not. I do agree that the ones that are like that are annoying. But I wouldn’t not go to any rave-like scenes just because it may end up that way. I’d lose out on too much, personally.
eddieroger 6y ago
The tour kinda writes itself - call it the One More Time tour, and prior put out a video rebuilding to the tune of Technologic. I am sad, but not sold I won't get to see them live eventually.

And with the added advantage that as they are electric they'd sound as good in the future as they did in the past. You wouldn't even know if it wasn't them under the masks. The counter point being that I saw Velvet Underground live and they sucked badly :D

schwartzworld 6y ago
I went to a smashing pumpkins show and was so turned off that I stopped being a fan. I have met several others with the same experience
- JansjoFromIkea 6y ago
  What was the issue? Was it the length of the show, the aura of Billy Corgan (and his horrific aesthetics), renditions that somehow made the original versions worse? Guy was obviously talented but I don't think he's the best judge of his strengths. There's a couple of songs from Adore and Machina where the music videos manage to make the songs drastically worse for me.
  - schwartzworld 6y ago
    You pretty much nailed it. This was on the Melon Collie tour.
    - hluska 6y ago
      I saw them play Mellon Collie too. Did they play their > 25 minute version of XYU? Christ, everyone but Billy Corgan was bored 15 minutes into that but it just kept going and going and going...
- saalweachter 6y ago
  Since I don't go to live shows, I tend to just have the disappointment of finding out that I only like some of my favorite bands' albums, because the arc of their own musical careers doesn't match my own tastes. Why can't performers just stay the same forever, producing a never-ending sequence of similar but distinct works?
  - triceratops 6y ago
    > Why can't performers just stay the same forever, producing a never-ending sequence of similar but distinct works? Because they're artists. Even the record company-manufactured acts consider themselves artists. On a human level, they're already performing the same pieces of music thousands of times - in rehearsals, concerts, recordings. It must get incredibly tedious after a while. You want them to write the same type of music all their lives as well? You monster! :-P
  - egypturnash 6y ago
    Some do! Some don't. There is one English psychedelic outfit I like called "Ozric Tentacles". Every album is pretty much identical. And it turns out that I really like that album, so I have bought it ten times over the years, plus a couple of live albums. This happens in part because whenever the people behind Ozric Tentacles want to make something different from their trademark sound, they'll usually put it out under another name. If you go to their site right now the front page advertises recent albums from two different side projects with even sillier names than "Ozric Tentacles". (The Ozrics are far from the only band to do this, they're just the first example that comes to mind.) There are other bands I like where every album is something different. King Crimson, for instance, is a different lineup for pretty much every album. Same bandleader, some people return to perform in multiple incarnations of the band, some are only there for one album and some tour dates. I love some of their albums and some are flat for me. I'd still grab another one if I heard that Fripp had declared that the current assemblage of musicians he was working with was an incarnation of King Crimson, because the albums that work for me work really well. If it's a dud I just consider it a down payment on the next hit.
    - saalweachter 6y ago
- mynameisash 6y ago
  The Pumpkins were my absolute favorite band in the heyday of 90s alt rock/grunge. I saw them once in St. Paul during their Adore tour, and it was amazing. But something about their music just didn't seem to age well with me - which very well may have been my tastes changing versus the band. I don't know. Machina didn't click, and I never really got into Zeitgeist or Oceania. I did buy Rotten Apples and enjoyed it immensely, but it was their older music. Whenever I watch one of their music videos on YouTube, it's very bittersweet. I still love their older work - MCIS and Adore are absolutely wonderful. But it's the universal story of losing your adolescence. I didn't really get into Daft Punk until the early 2000s, so my context was very different. I'm still sad to see this breakup, but I guess I don't feel it the same as SP. Funny, that.
  - ilikepi 6y ago
    Yep, very similar experience here. I find listening to music from that time period just makes me melancholy (err...no pun intended), so I mostly avoid it now. I'm not sure if this is because it brings me back to that time, or if it's the general mood of the music itself...probably both. I guess it makes sense that the music of a given time would reflect the general mood of the people coming of age at that time. I don't know where else to go with that thought...ah whatever. ;) EDIT: fix typo, because of course
  - soylentcola 6y ago
    I guess it's another example of "when you got into a band" as seen throughout this thread. Saw them at my first "big" concert at Lollapalooza 1994. 17 years old and it was the coolest crap I'd ever seen. Gish is awesome and Siamese Dream will always hold a special place in my heart, but I always felt like Mellon Collie was the start of Corgan's long, slow descent into self-indulgence. If Siamese Dream was their Appetite for Destruction, Mellon Collie was Use Your Illusion (two parter at that!) I guess you could do worse, though since both are solid. And I guess Lies would be analogous to that album with the Stevie Nicks cover.
  - mjgs 6y ago
    Smashing Pumpkins were the best in the early nineties. Gish and especially Siamese Dream are great albums. I saw them at some festivals around then. Amazing. I still get chills when I hear the guitar intro on some of the tracks from those albums. I saw them during some of their later tours and though they were great gigs, I think I had drifted away from their music and in fact the whole scene. I was getting into electronic music in the late 90s.
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Swizec 6y ago
I saw Guns’n’Roses at a festival in 2012 and ho boy did Axl Rose not age well. The Slash impersonator was kinda odd too – obviously great guitarist in his own right, all he needed was to own the fact he’s not Slash.
- dandersh 6y ago
  I'm guessing you're referring to DJ Ashba? One thing about GnR is they always had talented guitarists. Yea Axl's voice definitely isn't what it once was. Corey Glover (Living Colour) is another singer from that time period whose voice isn't the same.
coldsmoke 6y ago
It feels like they're also prime candidates for making a tour with them as actual robots (or holograms), so they wouldn't even need to tour themselves.
pvarangot 6y ago
A good live performance from an artist like that is all about visual and rhythmic synchronization with the lights and the dancing audience and about live EQ and effects tuned to the sound system in the venue. So no, it won't be the same. If you get utterly fucked up with perception altering substances it won't really matter though.

pardonmesir 6y ago

one just fucking exploded! did you not see that!?

lupin3ken 6y ago
This comment made the thread for me.

hypersoar 6y ago

I didn't go in the past because I'd heard their shows had a rave-like atmosphere. I have no idea if that's true, but it put me off. But maybe I won't have to worry about that so much when I'm one of a bunch of middle-aged people at a reunion concert by Daft Punk in their 60s.

ihuman 6y ago
There are plenty of videos of Alive 2007 on youtube if you want to see how rave-like they are.
- senor_lecce 6y ago
  Probably the best live gig I've been to.
devin 6y ago
What’s wrong with a rave-like atmosphere? Live a little.
- zeruch 6y ago
  Some folks don't like to deal with a swarming mass of tweaked out people. They just don't. As someone who survived early 90s acid house and rave culture in the Bay Area, people falling over, spilling things on you, or being rambling goofs for hours on end had a limited life span. Frankly, a mosh pit was more comfortable, because there you at least KNEW what was expected and how to counter.
  - sev 6y ago
    While many raves are like that, many others are not. I do agree that the ones that are like that are annoying. But I wouldn’t not go to any rave-like scenes just because it may end up that way. I’d lose out on too much, personally.

eddieroger 6y ago

The tour kinda writes itself - call it the One More Time tour, and prior put out a video rebuilding to the tune of Technologic. I am sad, but not sold I won't get to see them live eventually.