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So you posted an Alt-Right and a Nazi slogan on Facebook without context and wonder why Facebook didn't like it? How should anyone know that you were being sarc

by 4ggr0 6y ago

So you posted an Alt-Right and a Nazi slogan on Facebook without context and wonder why Facebook didn't like it? How should anyone know that you were being sarcastic? I would understand your confusion if you had made a long joke or written a sarcastic story, but posting Nazi slogans without changing or doing anything to them is not really humorous (to me). To the public, there's no difference between you posting these slogans, and an actual Neo-Nazi doing the same thing. Maybe I just don't understand the point you're trying to make. I do understand what you mean by people posting slogans they don't understand. In that case I'd still put the blame on the people. If people just happily post slogans without researching what they mean, then that's not BLMs or Facebooks fault. Both situations are a bit unfortunate, but I think we have talked enough about what "Black Lives Matter" means, to the point where it's a quick google search away.

holistio 6y ago
I did not mean it is humorous - I meant it as an illustration of the horrible context of slogans that are word-by-word positive: "work makes you free". I found that people around me did not understand the BLM context, because there is no local context. "Roma lives matter" could be a local context, because there's a lot of discrimination against roma people. I was not making a joke, I was angry at how commonplace the hatred was from people who might not have seen a single black person apart from the cinema screen. The police brutality context is also kind of lost here, because while there are a bunch of dirty cops, physical brutality from them is practically unheard of. The holocaust, on the other hand is a very real thing. People were deported to Auschwitz and other camps from the very _street_ I live in. I just hoped people would realise how that certain good-sounding slogan is not much different from the contemporary good-sounding slogan. Again, maybe I should have added an explanation, but I felt like it took away from contrast and I was very fed up with the amount of backlash towards what people overseas were standing up for. Had conversations with friends about the (lack of) contrast between the two slogans and basically everyone understood the point. Facebook did not, but as I said, I'm aware that this was an edgy form for my point. Regarding whether there's a difference between who is saying what: well of course there is, the context of this post was my posting history standing up for various sidelined groups and minorities and the audience of this post were my friends who very well know that I am as far from using either of the slogans in an agreeing manner as is Trump from a PhD in psychology.

by 4ggr0 6y ago

holistio 6y ago

I did not mean it is humorous - I meant it as an illustration of the horrible context of slogans that are word-by-word positive: "work makes you free". I found that people around me did not understand the BLM context, because there is no local context. "Roma lives matter" could be a local context, because there's a lot of discrimination against roma people. I was not making a joke, I was angry at how commonplace the hatred was from people who might not have seen a single black person apart from the cinema screen. The police brutality context is also kind of lost here, because while there are a bunch of dirty cops, physical brutality from them is practically unheard of. The holocaust, on the other hand is a very real thing. People were deported to Auschwitz and other camps from the very _street_ I live in. I just hoped people would realise how that certain good-sounding slogan is not much different from the contemporary good-sounding slogan. Again, maybe I should have added an explanation, but I felt like it took away from contrast and I was very fed up with the amount of backlash towards what people overseas were standing up for. Had conversations with friends about the (lack of) contrast between the two slogans and basically everyone understood the point. Facebook did not, but as I said, I'm aware that this was an edgy form for my point. Regarding whether there's a difference between who is saying what: well of course there is, the context of this post was my posting history standing up for various sidelined groups and minorities and the audience of this post were my friends who very well know that I am as far from using either of the slogans in an agreeing manner as is Trump from a PhD in psychology.