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Doesn't say a lot. It's mostly speculation, the chip is listed here [1]. Notable info: Still at 5nm; double the GPU cores. Reports up to 3 displays, so it's s

Doesn't say a lot. It's mostly speculation, the chip is listed here [1]. Notable info: Still at 5nm; double the GPU cores. Reports up to 3 displays, so it's safe to assume 2+1 external/internal. 8 High perf cores and 4 little perf cores. PCIE gen 4, no idea about number of lanes. [1] https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-apple_m1x-1898 https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-apple_m1x-1898

dwighttk 6y ago
(I don’t really know what I’m talking about) I just hope it isn’t internal + Touch Bar + 1 external
- PartiallyTyped 6y ago
  That would be a downgrade from current chip, so it's very unlikely.
- friseurtermin 6y ago
  Unlikely, the M1 page [0] says "2 displays" and I'm pretty sure the MBP supports internal display + Touchbar + external display. And even that is based on high-res displays, I think it could support more external displays at FHD [1]. [0]: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-apple_m1-1804 https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-apple_m1-1804 [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqINozYxDK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqINozYxDK8
  - bombcar 6y ago
    I wonder if their new GPU somehow is limited on display support (and they basically have to "add cores" to get more displays). My current 16" MBP has no problem driving a total of five displays and 16,041,600 pixels - and I'd be hard pressed to go back to just two external displays.
    - nixgeek 6y ago
      It’ll happily drive significant numbers of pixels although the resources used by Window Server do appear to scale somewhat proportionate to what you hook up: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210754 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210754 I’ve found a Pro Display (6K) and two other Dell 4K works fine, additional to the internal display (it’s a MBP 16” and not running in clamshell mode). MacBook 16”: 3072x1920 Pro Display: 6016x3384 Dell U2718Q: 3840x2160 (x2) Total Pixels: 42,845,184 Modern hardware is frankly amazing. I remember the 22” Trinitron CRTs of years ago and owning and driving one of those was a feat, now we have multiple displays with PPI such that with average visual acuity everything is so incredibly crisp.
saagarjha 6y ago
Comparison: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-apple_m1x-1898-vs-apple_m1-1804 https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-apple_m1x-1898-vs-... I am finding the numbers a little bit too perfect to put much faith into. Single core performance that is exactly identical between the two? Floating point performance exactly double? Seems a bit off.
- reaperducer 6y ago
  The little "Buy this processor at Amazon!" icons next to each benchmark make the whole site seem a touch scammy.
windexh8er 6y ago
The other thing is RAM. Apple still has delusions of gimping it's buyers into 16/32GB for "Pro" level machines. I'd probably buy a 16" MBP with this chip if I could get it with socketed 64/128GB. But Apple's going to solder it to the board and charge a premium even if they did.
- akmarinov 6y ago
  Yeah, I'm calling it now - no chance of 128GB in a Macbook Pro. 64GB even is doubtful.
  - rbanffy 6y ago
    It'd be fun if they got 32GB parts with double the memory bandwidth (which could make sense with the doubled Firestorm and GPU cores). Do we have perf counters that show how memory starved is M1 under pressure?
    - NathanielK 6y ago
      "Memory starving" a CPU is almost always a latency issue except with very specific workloads. A double wide memory controller would be very cool if they wanted to make a high performance integrated GPU though.
  - pdpi 6y ago
    64GB is available on the current-gen 64GB, so not offering it would be a step backwards.
    - akmarinov 6y ago
      64GB was available on the previous Mac Mini, but they took a step backwards and capped the new one at 16GB, no reason they won't do the same with the MBP.
      - rbanffy 6y ago
        The Intel Mac Mini is still sold. If you need, you can get it with 64GB of RAM and 2TB of PCIe SSD. Granted you'll feel bad if this leak is wrong and Apple shows an M1x with more than 16GB of RAM.
coldtea 6y ago
>Reports up to 3 displays, so it's safe to assume 2+1 external/internal. M1 Macs have been shown to drive 6 displays, so this "3 displays" means "3 4K/5K displays" I supposed.

dwighttk 6y ago

(I don’t really know what I’m talking about) I just hope it isn’t internal + Touch Bar + 1 external

PartiallyTyped 6y ago
That would be a downgrade from current chip, so it's very unlikely.
friseurtermin 6y ago
Unlikely, the M1 page [0] says "2 displays" and I'm pretty sure the MBP supports internal display + Touchbar + external display. And even that is based on high-res displays, I think it could support more external displays at FHD [1]. [0]: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-apple_m1-1804 https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-apple_m1-1804 [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqINozYxDK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqINozYxDK8
- bombcar 6y ago
  I wonder if their new GPU somehow is limited on display support (and they basically have to "add cores" to get more displays). My current 16" MBP has no problem driving a total of five displays and 16,041,600 pixels - and I'd be hard pressed to go back to just two external displays.
  - nixgeek 6y ago
    It’ll happily drive significant numbers of pixels although the resources used by Window Server do appear to scale somewhat proportionate to what you hook up: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210754 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210754 I’ve found a Pro Display (6K) and two other Dell 4K works fine, additional to the internal display (it’s a MBP 16” and not running in clamshell mode). MacBook 16”: 3072x1920 Pro Display: 6016x3384 Dell U2718Q: 3840x2160 (x2) Total Pixels: 42,845,184 Modern hardware is frankly amazing. I remember the 22” Trinitron CRTs of years ago and owning and driving one of those was a feat, now we have multiple displays with PPI such that with average visual acuity everything is so incredibly crisp.

saagarjha 6y ago

Comparison: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-apple_m1x-1898-vs-apple_m1-1804 https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-apple_m1x-1898-vs-... I am finding the numbers a little bit too perfect to put much faith into. Single core performance that is exactly identical between the two? Floating point performance exactly double? Seems a bit off.

reaperducer 6y ago
The little "Buy this processor at Amazon!" icons next to each benchmark make the whole site seem a touch scammy.

windexh8er 6y ago

The other thing is RAM. Apple still has delusions of gimping it's buyers into 16/32GB for "Pro" level machines. I'd probably buy a 16" MBP with this chip if I could get it with socketed 64/128GB. But Apple's going to solder it to the board and charge a premium even if they did.

akmarinov 6y ago
Yeah, I'm calling it now - no chance of 128GB in a Macbook Pro. 64GB even is doubtful.
- rbanffy 6y ago
  It'd be fun if they got 32GB parts with double the memory bandwidth (which could make sense with the doubled Firestorm and GPU cores). Do we have perf counters that show how memory starved is M1 under pressure?
  - NathanielK 6y ago
    "Memory starving" a CPU is almost always a latency issue except with very specific workloads. A double wide memory controller would be very cool if they wanted to make a high performance integrated GPU though.
- pdpi 6y ago
  64GB is available on the current-gen 64GB, so not offering it would be a step backwards.
  - akmarinov 6y ago
    64GB was available on the previous Mac Mini, but they took a step backwards and capped the new one at 16GB, no reason they won't do the same with the MBP.
    - rbanffy 6y ago
      The Intel Mac Mini is still sold. If you need, you can get it with 64GB of RAM and 2TB of PCIe SSD. Granted you'll feel bad if this leak is wrong and Apple shows an M1x with more than 16GB of RAM.

coldtea 6y ago

>Reports up to 3 displays, so it's safe to assume 2+1 external/internal. M1 Macs have been shown to drive 6 displays, so this "3 displays" means "3 4K/5K displays" I supposed.