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As a non-native I would've used `increase the interval` -- but I understand now this is incorrect. TIL..

by Yeri 6y ago

gchamonlive 6y ago
indeed, it would have been clearer to say 'increase the frequency of inspection'
- 4cao 6y ago
  My bad, I could have worded it clearer: "have the parts inspected more often" would do, I think. Alas, can't edit the comment anymore, and probably shouldn't anyway, considering the discussion it sparked.
  - gchamonlive 6y ago
    sorry for nitpicking, but as a non-native speaker I can understand the confusion
kryogen1c 6y ago
> As a non-native i am a native and this confuses me constantly. the windshield wipers in my car change their speed based on a UX showing an in increasingingly long bar. i can never tell if it represents time or 1/time until i futz with it.
- netsharc 6y ago
  Huh? The lowest setting (the one closest to off or auto) is the one for the least rain, and it goes up to handle more rain, i.e. the further you are from off/auto the faster the windshield wipers wipe.
  - kryogen1c 6y ago
    > Huh? Yes, you are right to be confused. You dont know the UX of car. Why did you think this was worth commenting? > (the one closest to off or auto) the on/off toggle is separate from the speed dial. there is no obvious (to me) directionality.
    - netsharc 6y ago
      Well, I thought all wipers had these things integrated, sorry to presume it was a user instead of a UX problem. But thanks for the questioning of the worth of my cimment. I'd ask for the make/model of your car out of curiousity, but I'm not sure I would want to continue to engage with you.
    - jonplackett 6y ago
      Only on hacker news can a discussion about an airplane engine end up about windscreen wiper UX.
    - ars 6y ago
      Yeah that's one thing European cars do wrong. They have two separate controls: one for on off the other one for interval. American cars in contrast have just one control: it starts with off, then does intervals, finally the shortest interval, then low speed and then high speed.
      - netsharc 6y ago
        Welcome to downvote hell with me. God damn, sanctimonius know-it-all HN jerkoffs do piss me off (yeah, go ahead reader, downvote me). But your classification of European/American cars isn't accurate either. I drive an Italian car (well, but surprise, it's Fiat Chrysler) and the wiper controls makes sense, like what you refer as "American cars". Search for Mercedes Benz wiper controls on Youtube, that also makes sense. BMW's one is strange, the Ford one looks confusing but I didn't bother to look for a video.
      - kergonath 6y ago
        I’ve been living in Europe for a couple of decades and I have never seen a on/off control separate from the speed.
- sandworm101 6y ago
  >> UX showing an in increasingingly long bar I have driven car where the pictogram meant "amount of rain", the longer bar meaning more rain and therefore a shorter interval.

As a non-native I would've used `increase the interval` -- but I understand now this is incorrect. TIL..

by Yeri 6y ago

As a non-native I would've used `increase the interval` -- but I understand now this is incorrect. TIL..

gchamonlive 6y ago

indeed, it would have been clearer to say 'increase the frequency of inspection'

4cao 6y ago
My bad, I could have worded it clearer: "have the parts inspected more often" would do, I think. Alas, can't edit the comment anymore, and probably shouldn't anyway, considering the discussion it sparked.
- gchamonlive 6y ago
  sorry for nitpicking, but as a non-native speaker I can understand the confusion

kryogen1c 6y ago

> As a non-native i am a native and this confuses me constantly. the windshield wipers in my car change their speed based on a UX showing an in increasingingly long bar. i can never tell if it represents time or 1/time until i futz with it.

netsharc 6y ago
Huh? The lowest setting (the one closest to off or auto) is the one for the least rain, and it goes up to handle more rain, i.e. the further you are from off/auto the faster the windshield wipers wipe.
- kryogen1c 6y ago
  > Huh? Yes, you are right to be confused. You dont know the UX of car. Why did you think this was worth commenting? > (the one closest to off or auto) the on/off toggle is separate from the speed dial. there is no obvious (to me) directionality.
  - netsharc 6y ago
    Well, I thought all wipers had these things integrated, sorry to presume it was a user instead of a UX problem. But thanks for the questioning of the worth of my cimment. I'd ask for the make/model of your car out of curiousity, but I'm not sure I would want to continue to engage with you.
  - jonplackett 6y ago
    Only on hacker news can a discussion about an airplane engine end up about windscreen wiper UX.
  - ars 6y ago
    Yeah that's one thing European cars do wrong. They have two separate controls: one for on off the other one for interval. American cars in contrast have just one control: it starts with off, then does intervals, finally the shortest interval, then low speed and then high speed.
    - netsharc 6y ago
      Welcome to downvote hell with me. God damn, sanctimonius know-it-all HN jerkoffs do piss me off (yeah, go ahead reader, downvote me). But your classification of European/American cars isn't accurate either. I drive an Italian car (well, but surprise, it's Fiat Chrysler) and the wiper controls makes sense, like what you refer as "American cars". Search for Mercedes Benz wiper controls on Youtube, that also makes sense. BMW's one is strange, the Ford one looks confusing but I didn't bother to look for a video.
    - kergonath 6y ago
      I’ve been living in Europe for a couple of decades and I have never seen a on/off control separate from the speed.
sandworm101 6y ago
>> UX showing an in increasingingly long bar I have driven car where the pictogram meant "amount of rain", the longer bar meaning more rain and therefore a shorter interval.