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> Entire industries have been built on top of JavaScript, from rags to the most valuable companies in the world reinvesting back into it. It’s getting mature, t

by TeeWEE 6y ago

> Entire industries have been built on top of JavaScript, from rags to the most valuable companies in the world reinvesting back into it. It’s getting mature, too. This is a fallacy argument. Because other users it, doens't mean its good.

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samtheprogram 6y ago
Thanks for pointing this out. While I think that speaks to the productivity it has provided (I guess that’s a stretch / could be coincidence), what I really should have conveyed is that through a thriving ecosystem and updated standards, it’s gotten a lot better over time. Node v8+ and latest versions of NPM are very far from where they used to be. Again, JavaScript is not without it’s quirks, but I don’t think any language is free from that statement, and JavaScript’s are easily managed in my opinion. It’s single threaded, but again, right tool for the right job.
- anonymoushn 6y ago
  There's a thriving ecosystem because you are forced to use it. Do you think there wouldn't be a thriving perl ecosystem if perl was the only language you could use to execute code in a web browser?
  - samtheprogram 6y ago
    Very likely; although JavaScript became much more popular after it was available outside the browser, that probably was a factor. It doesn’t affect my argument that it is a thriving ecosystem that has made it worth much more than the negative sentiment it has received in the past, and that it is not a bad choice.
    - oilbagz 6y ago
      Its a bad choice because you have to use Javascript, and Javascript is a shitty technology akin to Visual Basic. Collective adoption of a technology doesn't make it 'good'. It makes it 'available'. Those things are not always equivalent.
    - anonymoushn 6y ago
      While the ecosystem contributes value for many use cases, I don't think you can make use of such things when writing smart contracts that run on a very slow and very expensive computer.

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samtheprogram 6y ago

Thanks for pointing this out. While I think that speaks to the productivity it has provided (I guess that’s a stretch / could be coincidence), what I really should have conveyed is that through a thriving ecosystem and updated standards, it’s gotten a lot better over time. Node v8+ and latest versions of NPM are very far from where they used to be. Again, JavaScript is not without it’s quirks, but I don’t think any language is free from that statement, and JavaScript’s are easily managed in my opinion. It’s single threaded, but again, right tool for the right job.

anonymoushn 6y ago
There's a thriving ecosystem because you are forced to use it. Do you think there wouldn't be a thriving perl ecosystem if perl was the only language you could use to execute code in a web browser?
- samtheprogram 6y ago
  Very likely; although JavaScript became much more popular after it was available outside the browser, that probably was a factor. It doesn’t affect my argument that it is a thriving ecosystem that has made it worth much more than the negative sentiment it has received in the past, and that it is not a bad choice.
  - oilbagz 6y ago
    Its a bad choice because you have to use Javascript, and Javascript is a shitty technology akin to Visual Basic. Collective adoption of a technology doesn't make it 'good'. It makes it 'available'. Those things are not always equivalent.
  - anonymoushn 6y ago
    While the ecosystem contributes value for many use cases, I don't think you can make use of such things when writing smart contracts that run on a very slow and very expensive computer.