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It’s interesting to read the pro Chinese propaganda on HN. It’s too bad we can’t see the region from where those comments are coming from. It saddens me that pe

by ajay-b 6y ago

It’s interesting to read the pro Chinese propaganda on HN. It’s too bad we can’t see the region from where those comments are coming from. It saddens me that people are forced to stand up for a regime that massacres and enslaves its own people.

BelenusMordred 6y ago
Please try take a moment to step in someone else's shoes and engage with what they are saying before calling their comments "propaganda". It's not good faith behaviour.
- UK-Al05 6y ago
  It's very odd, when there's countless witnesses, satalite imagery, press teams finding these places, and the CCP even admitting to education camps that there are people going "it's not so bad" and defending CCP. Even if the camps are just "re-education camps", thats still really bad.
  - Fricken 6y ago
    How do you respond to islamic extremism in your country? Attacks in Tieneman square used to be bad before it was the Uyghurs doing it. Islamic terrorism used to be bad, before it was the Uyghurs doing it. China has a responsibility to deal with this problem, and if there a nice, gentle way to deal with it, I can't think of what it might be.
    - jedimind 6y ago
      It has absolutely NOTHING to do with 'extremism' that's just a cheap CCP talking point. It's about the geopolitical importance of xinjiang: https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8 https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8
    - tgragnato 6y ago
      Nobody has a responsibility to "re-educate" an entire culture. It's a no go, full stop. Especially because there is not a gentle way, what you end up with is still genocide. Mincing words can't change facts. The CCP consider extremism every form of dissent. By that standard, nobody is a terrorist, because everybody is a terrorist. And the ultimate consequence is that the party feels entitled to do whatever they want to any citizen. Which is again unacceptable.
      - bingbong70 6y ago
        Meanwhile, the US/Canada/UK "reeducated" a few million Iraqi/Syrian/Afghan civilians with bullets and bombs... People that said hypocrisy and amnesia are US superpowers are repeatedly vindicated.
  - bingbong70 6y ago
    Were you around for "Saddam's WMDs" and the ramp up to the war in Iraq? US based binary thinkers tried to make people believe antiwar protestors were traitors/propagandists too.
- thotsBgone 6y ago
  Found one!
noobface1337 6y ago
> It’s too bad we can’t see the region from where those comments are coming from. Same, since we've known that India will stop at nothing to spew bunch of lies against whoever they perceive as their enemies https://www.disinfo.eu/publications/indian-chronicles-deep-dive-into-a-15-year-operation-targeting-the-eu-and-un-to-serve-indian-interests https://www.disinfo.eu/publications/indian-chronicles-deep-d...
zecg 6y ago
This one is from Croatia, I can't trust any airquoted credible cases from western media on China, I've seen no evidence thus far and too much of this: https://i.redd.it/4ugpt0499ri61.jpg https://i.redd.it/4ugpt0499ri61.jpg
cobraetor 6y ago
> It’s interesting to read the pro Chinese propaganda on HN And the president of the United States himself dismissed Uighur genocide as being part of China’s ‘different norms’. https://nypost.com/2021/02/17/biden-says-uighur-genocide-is-part-of-chinas-different-norms/ https://nypost.com/2021/02/17/biden-says-uighur-genocide-is-...
ospider 6y ago
It's interesting to see people treat other people's comments as propaganda just because they are expressing a different view.

by ajay-b 6y ago

BelenusMordred 6y ago

Please try take a moment to step in someone else's shoes and engage with what they are saying before calling their comments "propaganda". It's not good faith behaviour.

UK-Al05 6y ago
It's very odd, when there's countless witnesses, satalite imagery, press teams finding these places, and the CCP even admitting to education camps that there are people going "it's not so bad" and defending CCP. Even if the camps are just "re-education camps", thats still really bad.
- Fricken 6y ago
  How do you respond to islamic extremism in your country? Attacks in Tieneman square used to be bad before it was the Uyghurs doing it. Islamic terrorism used to be bad, before it was the Uyghurs doing it. China has a responsibility to deal with this problem, and if there a nice, gentle way to deal with it, I can't think of what it might be.
  - jedimind 6y ago
    It has absolutely NOTHING to do with 'extremism' that's just a cheap CCP talking point. It's about the geopolitical importance of xinjiang: https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8 https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8
  - tgragnato 6y ago
    Nobody has a responsibility to "re-educate" an entire culture. It's a no go, full stop. Especially because there is not a gentle way, what you end up with is still genocide. Mincing words can't change facts. The CCP consider extremism every form of dissent. By that standard, nobody is a terrorist, because everybody is a terrorist. And the ultimate consequence is that the party feels entitled to do whatever they want to any citizen. Which is again unacceptable.
    - bingbong70 6y ago
      Meanwhile, the US/Canada/UK "reeducated" a few million Iraqi/Syrian/Afghan civilians with bullets and bombs... People that said hypocrisy and amnesia are US superpowers are repeatedly vindicated.
- bingbong70 6y ago
  Were you around for "Saddam's WMDs" and the ramp up to the war in Iraq? US based binary thinkers tried to make people believe antiwar protestors were traitors/propagandists too.
thotsBgone 6y ago
Found one!

noobface1337 6y ago

> It’s too bad we can’t see the region from where those comments are coming from. Same, since we've known that India will stop at nothing to spew bunch of lies against whoever they perceive as their enemies https://www.disinfo.eu/publications/indian-chronicles-deep-dive-into-a-15-year-operation-targeting-the-eu-and-un-to-serve-indian-interests https://www.disinfo.eu/publications/indian-chronicles-deep-d...

zecg 6y ago

This one is from Croatia, I can't trust any airquoted credible cases from western media on China, I've seen no evidence thus far and too much of this: https://i.redd.it/4ugpt0499ri61.jpg https://i.redd.it/4ugpt0499ri61.jpg

cobraetor 6y ago

> It’s interesting to read the pro Chinese propaganda on HN And the president of the United States himself dismissed Uighur genocide as being part of China’s ‘different norms’. https://nypost.com/2021/02/17/biden-says-uighur-genocide-is-part-of-chinas-different-norms/ https://nypost.com/2021/02/17/biden-says-uighur-genocide-is-...

ospider 6y ago

It's interesting to see people treat other people's comments as propaganda just because they are expressing a different view.