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If you're wondering why you might choose SCCS over RCS for your next project, well: http://sccs.sourceforge.net/sccs_vs_rcs.html http://sccs.sourceforge.net/scc

If you're wondering why you might choose SCCS over RCS for your next project, well: http://sccs.sourceforge.net/sccs_vs_rcs.html http://sccs.sourceforge.net/sccs_vs_rcs.html

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emmelaich 6y ago
GNU has a compatible program, CSSC.
teddyh 6y ago
If I ever wanted to use something like RCS, I would first take a serious look at SRC: http://www.catb.org/~esr/src/ http://www.catb.org/~esr/src/
- DonHopkins 6y ago
  It's pretty hard to take anything Eric S Raymond says seriously, and pretty revolting to look at so many of the things he has said, and he's certainly not easy to work with, so why would you recommend his software? As you surely know, Eric S Raymond has a long well documented track record of wildly inaccurate claims and outright racism and misogyny, and he regularly inflates and exaggerates his technical competency and achievements. Thomas Ptacek actually raised $100,000 to stop himself from tweeting vile ESR quotes: he actually raised money to cancel HIMSELF! I bet that's a lot more than ESR has raised on his SRC fundraising page that you linked to and endorsed. https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/966859542792458240 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/966859542792458240 Some choice quotes (you can pay me to stop, too!): https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 ESR> Unfortunately, this doesn't cover the BLM crowd, which would have an average IQ of about 85 if it's statistically representative of Americans blacks as a whole. I've never tried to train anyone that dim and wouldn't want to. https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/657333910846742528 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/657333910846742528 https://www.dropbox.com/s/55ut8psqeb20tnj/Screenshot%202015-10-22%2018.12.56.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/55ut8psqeb20tnj/Screenshot%202015-... > I asked some friends, who tend to be quite nerdy but are mostly not programmers. The only response so far is Ada Lovelace. ESR> Figures. She doesn't deserve that reputation; "the first programmer" is pure hype created by political animals desperate to conjure up female role models. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13147038 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13147038 ESR> I’m wondering about this because my wife Cathy asked me a simple question last night, and I realized I didn’t have an answer to it. “Are you” she asked “the most famous programmer in the world?” This was a question which I had, believe it or not, never thought about before. But it’s a reasonable one to ask, given recent evidence – notably, the unexpected success of my Patreon page. This is relevant because Patreon is mainly an arts-funding site – it’s clearly not designed for or by techies.
  - teddyh 6y ago
    Man, that is almost a textbook example of an ad hominem attack. I try to recommend some useful software, and you go on an unrelated rant about its author, in an obvious attempt to have him cancelled and all his works expunged. I’m sure all your claims can be either explained as inconsequential or disproven as false, but this is not the time and place for it. Take your ESR-bashing somewhere else.
    - DonHopkins 6y ago
      I want people to know about him, and what he's said. And so does he, even more than I do! So I'm doing him a favor, literally spreading his own words, and giving him a platform, not canceling him. You linked to his appeal for financial support. So did you already know all about him when you recommended his software, or were those quotes and his reputation for misogyny and racism news to you? You seem pretty Dunning-Kruger sure of yourself that all of my claims and evidence I linked to about ESR are "either explained as inconsequential or disproven as false", but you're wrong, so of course you don't want to discuss the person whose project and appeal for financial donations you linked to and endorsed.
      - teddyh 6y ago
        > So did you already know about him when you recommended his software, or were those quotes news to you? I’m not discussing ESR here. I’m discussing you, and your transparent attempt to trap me and try and have me cancelled as well.
        DonHopkins 6y ago
        What are you even talking about? You are too discussing ESR here. You're the one who brought him up in the first place, and linked to his SRC fund raising page. How did I "trap" you into suddenly trying to change the subject? Who did I ask to "cancel" you? That's "physically impossible", as you would say. ;) Again: did you already know about ESR's racism and misogyny and narcissism, or not? Were those quotes news to you? Do you still dispute them? Is asking you those questions a "trap" that will "cancel" you if you answer, so now you want to change the subject? You're on record as having submitted two of his other ridiculously arrogant articles to Hacker News: "How to Become a Hacker" (3 points by teddyh on March 24, 2016), and "Things Every Hacker Once Knew" (7 points by teddyh on Jan 26, 2017), although there were few points and no comments on either. That proves you've read his articles and known of him for at least five years, and you're obviously a fan of his. So let's hear your side of the story, instead of changing the subject or canceling you, please. Were you seriously suggesting that ESR would be a good person to collaborate with on developing a source code control system, despite all the evidence? Please explain why. Do you still endorse contributing to his fundraising campaign that you linked to? Have you put your money where your mouth is by contributing to it yourself? I believe Thomas Ptacek's self-cancelation fundraising campaign is over, but it was a great idea, so how much will you pay me to cancel myself, stop quoting ESR, and change the subject? Funny how most of the people whining about cancel culture actually want to cancel other people themselves, while playing the victim, because they have reprehensible believes they can't defend, and don't want to face the consequences of their own words and deeds. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/19/nobody-loves-cancel-culture-more-than-republicans-do/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/19/nobody-lo... >Opinion: Nobody loves ‘cancel culture’ more than Republicans do >America, conservatives will tell you, is under siege by “cancel culture.” What they won’t tell you is that they couldn’t be happier about it, since it gives them a handy comeback to any criticism, and helps feed their supporters’ sense of victimization. >Consider the defense Donald Trump Jr. offered of Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz’s jaunt to Cancun while millions of his Texas constituents froze without power. >“The optics of that right now isn’t ideal,” Trump Jr. admitted in a video posted to social media, but “I’m not going to jump on this bandwagon of trying to cancel the guy.” Because Cruz is the real victim here.
- geocar 6y ago
  src is a cute wrapper for rcs, but it has all of the same limitations of rcs, plus a few extra, so I hope you'd consider sccs/cssc if you wanted something "like rcs" but not. fossil is also a really interesting choice for an "easy setup" version control system, and it's definitely worth considering if you're looking at sccs/cssc: I've used it to log configuration changes for an application, the "push" functionality to centralise changes from tenants, and then I can store issues/tickets (and other metadata) on the configuration changes centrally.

If you're wondering why you might choose SCCS over RCS for your next project, well: http://sccs.sourceforge.net/sccs_vs_rcs.html http://sccs.sourceforge.net/sccs_vs_rcs.html

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emmelaich 6y ago

GNU has a compatible program, CSSC.

teddyh 6y ago

If I ever wanted to use something like RCS, I would first take a serious look at SRC: http://www.catb.org/~esr/src/ http://www.catb.org/~esr/src/

DonHopkins 6y ago
It's pretty hard to take anything Eric S Raymond says seriously, and pretty revolting to look at so many of the things he has said, and he's certainly not easy to work with, so why would you recommend his software? As you surely know, Eric S Raymond has a long well documented track record of wildly inaccurate claims and outright racism and misogyny, and he regularly inflates and exaggerates his technical competency and achievements. Thomas Ptacek actually raised $100,000 to stop himself from tweeting vile ESR quotes: he actually raised money to cancel HIMSELF! I bet that's a lot more than ESR has raised on his SRC fundraising page that you linked to and endorsed. https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/966859542792458240 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/966859542792458240 Some choice quotes (you can pay me to stop, too!): https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/816449724127608833 ESR> Unfortunately, this doesn't cover the BLM crowd, which would have an average IQ of about 85 if it's statistically representative of Americans blacks as a whole. I've never tried to train anyone that dim and wouldn't want to. https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/657333910846742528 https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/657333910846742528 https://www.dropbox.com/s/55ut8psqeb20tnj/Screenshot%202015-10-22%2018.12.56.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/55ut8psqeb20tnj/Screenshot%202015-... > I asked some friends, who tend to be quite nerdy but are mostly not programmers. The only response so far is Ada Lovelace. ESR> Figures. She doesn't deserve that reputation; "the first programmer" is pure hype created by political animals desperate to conjure up female role models. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13147038 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13147038 ESR> I’m wondering about this because my wife Cathy asked me a simple question last night, and I realized I didn’t have an answer to it. “Are you” she asked “the most famous programmer in the world?” This was a question which I had, believe it or not, never thought about before. But it’s a reasonable one to ask, given recent evidence – notably, the unexpected success of my Patreon page. This is relevant because Patreon is mainly an arts-funding site – it’s clearly not designed for or by techies.
- teddyh 6y ago
  Man, that is almost a textbook example of an ad hominem attack. I try to recommend some useful software, and you go on an unrelated rant about its author, in an obvious attempt to have him cancelled and all his works expunged. I’m sure all your claims can be either explained as inconsequential or disproven as false, but this is not the time and place for it. Take your ESR-bashing somewhere else.
  - DonHopkins 6y ago
    I want people to know about him, and what he's said. And so does he, even more than I do! So I'm doing him a favor, literally spreading his own words, and giving him a platform, not canceling him. You linked to his appeal for financial support. So did you already know all about him when you recommended his software, or were those quotes and his reputation for misogyny and racism news to you? You seem pretty Dunning-Kruger sure of yourself that all of my claims and evidence I linked to about ESR are "either explained as inconsequential or disproven as false", but you're wrong, so of course you don't want to discuss the person whose project and appeal for financial donations you linked to and endorsed.
    - teddyh 6y ago
      > So did you already know about him when you recommended his software, or were those quotes news to you? I’m not discussing ESR here. I’m discussing you, and your transparent attempt to trap me and try and have me cancelled as well.
      - DonHopkins 6y ago
        What are you even talking about? You are too discussing ESR here. You're the one who brought him up in the first place, and linked to his SRC fund raising page. How did I "trap" you into suddenly trying to change the subject? Who did I ask to "cancel" you? That's "physically impossible", as you would say. ;) Again: did you already know about ESR's racism and misogyny and narcissism, or not? Were those quotes news to you? Do you still dispute them? Is asking you those questions a "trap" that will "cancel" you if you answer, so now you want to change the subject? You're on record as having submitted two of his other ridiculously arrogant articles to Hacker News: "How to Become a Hacker" (3 points by teddyh on March 24, 2016), and "Things Every Hacker Once Knew" (7 points by teddyh on Jan 26, 2017), although there were few points and no comments on either. That proves you've read his articles and known of him for at least five years, and you're obviously a fan of his. So let's hear your side of the story, instead of changing the subject or canceling you, please. Were you seriously suggesting that ESR would be a good person to collaborate with on developing a source code control system, despite all the evidence? Please explain why. Do you still endorse contributing to his fundraising campaign that you linked to? Have you put your money where your mouth is by contributing to it yourself? I believe Thomas Ptacek's self-cancelation fundraising campaign is over, but it was a great idea, so how much will you pay me to cancel myself, stop quoting ESR, and change the subject? Funny how most of the people whining about cancel culture actually want to cancel other people themselves, while playing the victim, because they have reprehensible believes they can't defend, and don't want to face the consequences of their own words and deeds. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/19/nobody-loves-cancel-culture-more-than-republicans-do/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/19/nobody-lo... >Opinion: Nobody loves ‘cancel culture’ more than Republicans do >America, conservatives will tell you, is under siege by “cancel culture.” What they won’t tell you is that they couldn’t be happier about it, since it gives them a handy comeback to any criticism, and helps feed their supporters’ sense of victimization. >Consider the defense Donald Trump Jr. offered of Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz’s jaunt to Cancun while millions of his Texas constituents froze without power. >“The optics of that right now isn’t ideal,” Trump Jr. admitted in a video posted to social media, but “I’m not going to jump on this bandwagon of trying to cancel the guy.” Because Cruz is the real victim here.
geocar 6y ago
src is a cute wrapper for rcs, but it has all of the same limitations of rcs, plus a few extra, so I hope you'd consider sccs/cssc if you wanted something "like rcs" but not. fossil is also a really interesting choice for an "easy setup" version control system, and it's definitely worth considering if you're looking at sccs/cssc: I've used it to log configuration changes for an application, the "push" functionality to centralise changes from tenants, and then I can store issues/tickets (and other metadata) on the configuration changes centrally.