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You can pretend to care about North Korean censorship all you want, but if you name your platform “Pepe,” positively cite 4chan as an influence, and take the ti
by ojnabieoot 6y ago
You can pretend to care about North Korean censorship all you want, but if you name your platform “Pepe,” positively cite 4chan as an influence, and take the time to criticize “cancel culture SJWs” then it’s quite clear what your intentions and motivations are, and who your audience is: you want to create a space run by and for racist pieces of garbage. You don’t actually care about free speech at all, and neither does anyone who is pretending that this platform will provide a public good.
- dkjaudyeqooe 6y ago"Frustrated with Parler deplatforming" was kind of a giveaway.
- encom 6y agoYea, if OP opposes cancel culture, he must be a nazi. There's no other conclusion.
- ojnabieoot 6y agoTo be clear I didn’t say he was a Nazi, merely that he was a racist piece of garbage.
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- encom 6y agoYou should move to North Korea. It seems like a place more aligned with your beliefs.
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- onelovetwo 6y agoWhere did race ever come into this, is that just something people scream out nowadays?
- mcguire 6y agoAre you familiar with Parler at all?
- throaway123456 6y agoThis pretty much. Only Nazis fume over cancel culture. Remember comrades - War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.
- jojobas 6y agoFree speech is a public good in itself. Voltair would not approve of "I might agree with what you're saying but you drew a pepe so you need to be shut down".
- ojnabieoot 6y ago“I may disagree with what you say, but I will not write a critical Hacker News comment, since you are a pathological crybaby who interprets any negative remark as an act of censorship.” Nowhere did I say that the app should be “shut down.” I said it shouldn’t be supported.
- jojobas 6y agoWhatever Twitter/Youtube doesn't support is effectively shut down. If nobody supports a p2p project like this than everyone who could use it are shut down.
- jakelazaroff 6y agoThere’s a ton of distance between the Voltaire quote goalposts and the corporate social network deplatforming goalposts. Voltaire wasn’t dying for anyone’s right to post videos on YouTube.
- jojobas 6y agoIn Voltaire's time all one could do is speak at the market square. Today that's roughly equivalent to speaking in a dark room with nobody else inside, I doubt that' what Voltaire was willing to die for.
- jakelazaroff 6y agoRight, he was talking about speaking without fearing punishment by the government. The modern equivalent of which is… speaking without fearing punishment by the government.
- NoImmatureAdHom 6y agoIt seems like you might have sympathies with the cancel-culture SJWs and oppose whatever this gal is behind. Rather than letting your emotions run wild, perhaps asking questions and thinking carefully might make more sense. For instance, foremost in my thoughts is the question: to what extent do makers of effective open-source tools have any control over how they're used? Popularity for Pepe might mean use by progressives in Iran, racists in America, and regular Chinese who just want to chat without minders. Much more likely it'll be all sorts of folks who use such a tool. I encourage you to remember that you aren't on the wrong side of cancel culture now, but you could be soon.
- nerdponx 6y agoThis would be the dream goal. But if the system originates from a place of bad faith and bigotry, it will be hard to get anyone but the original bigots to adopt it. Unless someone forks it. Or uses the same algorithms/ideas to build their own version.
- krainboltgreene 6y ago> Rather than letting your emotions run wild, perhaps asking questions and thinking carefully might make more sense. That's incredibly presumptuous of you to the point of being very rude.
- mieses 6y agoPresumably you're ok with "you want to create a space run by and for racist pieces of garbage".
- krainboltgreene 6y agoWhataboutism is not suitable for civil discourse.
- ojnabieoot 6y agoAlthough it is very funny coming from someone named NoImmatureAdHom...
- onelovetwo 6y ago> You don’t actually care about free speech at all, and neither does anyone who is pretending that this platform will provide a public good. By creating a project whos intention is entirely focused on that mission?
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- barnaclejive 6y agoyep, not interested