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Tried submithub, it says you have 2 "credits," when I uploaded a song and it takes you through a bunch of commitment steps and then asks you to pay to submit to

Tried submithub, it says you have 2 "credits," when I uploaded a song and it takes you through a bunch of commitment steps and then asks you to pay to submit to the reviewers because you don't have enough "credits" to spend. If you want to try submithub out, be ready to pay with a card, regardless of what the UX seems to imply. It seemed like a good service, but now I don't see myself dealing with them.

jasongrishkoff 6y ago
Hey, SubmitHub founder here. Sorry for the confusion. You get two types of credits: standard (the 2 you saw) and premium (which you have to buy). Your standard credits refresh every 4 hours (assuming you use them). When going through the submission process you'll see it prompts you whether you want to use your standard (free) credits or premium credits. If you don't have any premium ones -- and don't want to buy them -- make sure you stick to the 'standard' path. The core idea behind SubmitHub's "model" is that for decades it's been near-impossible to catch the attention of bloggers/playlisters/curators/whatever. Our system dangles a carrot (~$1) in front of them to guarantee a response+feedback about your song (with the ideal outcome of course being that they share your song - no additional costs involved).
- motohagiography 6y ago
  And I appreciate you are matching musicians with audiences, super valuable service. This particular credits ambiguity registered as a pretty grey pattern. My expectation was just say "$10 to put this in front of an audience of x," or "share a song with our network and then buy premium features," instead of breadcrumbing the incremental commitment screens before the hard upsell to complete it. I'm sure your mixpanel or other metrics show your abandoned carts data and if this pattern is working, it's working. For pro musicians who are committed to your product as a promotion path, perhaps they don't care about that credits ambiguity because they go in with a marketing budget and know what they're going in for. For me, I will stick with making music for fun. I wish your team success at their mission.
bambax 6y ago
SubmitHub is legit. Like it says in the post, it's very competitive. I have used them a few times. The response you get are mostly negative (at least they were for me!) but you do get responses and that in itself is valuable. There is an interview with the founder on a podcast somewhere that's quite informative. I'll link to it if I can find it. I had never heard of Soundcampaign though. Will have to check it out.
- galkk 6y ago
  If you're ready to pay for negative responses, I'm ready to provide it as a service for you.

jasongrishkoff 6y ago

Hey, SubmitHub founder here. Sorry for the confusion. You get two types of credits: standard (the 2 you saw) and premium (which you have to buy). Your standard credits refresh every 4 hours (assuming you use them). When going through the submission process you'll see it prompts you whether you want to use your standard (free) credits or premium credits. If you don't have any premium ones -- and don't want to buy them -- make sure you stick to the 'standard' path. The core idea behind SubmitHub's "model" is that for decades it's been near-impossible to catch the attention of bloggers/playlisters/curators/whatever. Our system dangles a carrot (~$1) in front of them to guarantee a response+feedback about your song (with the ideal outcome of course being that they share your song - no additional costs involved).

motohagiography 6y ago
And I appreciate you are matching musicians with audiences, super valuable service. This particular credits ambiguity registered as a pretty grey pattern. My expectation was just say "$10 to put this in front of an audience of x," or "share a song with our network and then buy premium features," instead of breadcrumbing the incremental commitment screens before the hard upsell to complete it. I'm sure your mixpanel or other metrics show your abandoned carts data and if this pattern is working, it's working. For pro musicians who are committed to your product as a promotion path, perhaps they don't care about that credits ambiguity because they go in with a marketing budget and know what they're going in for. For me, I will stick with making music for fun. I wish your team success at their mission.

bambax 6y ago

SubmitHub is legit. Like it says in the post, it's very competitive. I have used them a few times. The response you get are mostly negative (at least they were for me!) but you do get responses and that in itself is valuable. There is an interview with the founder on a podcast somewhere that's quite informative. I'll link to it if I can find it. I had never heard of Soundcampaign though. Will have to check it out.

galkk 6y ago
If you're ready to pay for negative responses, I'm ready to provide it as a service for you.