>but I disagree that a hands off approach of Florida or the Dakotas can be deemed as a success by anyone. First, you are right, I think I misremembered; Califo

>but I disagree that a hands off approach of Florida or the Dakotas can be deemed as a success by anyone. First, you are right, I think I misremembered; California has a similar number of cases per capita. However, it was not my intention to show Florida as a success; I only mean to point out that it's hard to convince people to continue with the lockdowns when the results feel marginal.