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Seems like there's a growing trend in American politics where the petite bourgeoisie is permanently angry; a deep fear of proletarianization.
by spamizbad 6y ago
Seems like there's a growing trend in American politics where the petite bourgeoisie is permanently angry; a deep fear of proletarianization.
- anm89 6y agoWhat's the need to frame American socio politics in the specific language of a German theorist from the 1800's whose ideas have failed miserably and caused widespread famine, abuse, genocide, and atrocities every time they've been tested out?
- rglover 6y agoSuperiority complex.
- anm89 6y agoYeah mixing in those french words sure makes it sounds smart!
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- underseacables 6y agoAmerican politicians seem to have the mindset of “do as we say not as we do” compounded by a view that they as the elected class, are superior in their thinking, and to back down or give in to the will of the people, is to somehow admit fault, defeat, or error. Dare I say that the sign of a good politician is someone who can admit when they are wrong, and admit that perhaps the path they have chosen is not the best path. What we see in America today is the complete opposite, where politicians steadfastly refused to admit a decision was made an error, and a rigid adherence to continuing that path.
- gumby 6y agoWell, among other reasons because many ideas he came up with or championed have been fundamentally adopted as part of the fundamental reasoning of theoreticians, politicians, and economists of all political stripes? The most notable of them is the labor theory of value, an archaic relic of the Victorian industrial revolution but apparently impossible to leave behind. This obsession makes reasoning about post industrial economies almost impossible Or how about people’s use of the terms “left” and “right” which are only meaningful when referring to certain parties in the French revolutionary Assemblée. This lazy characterization leads to confusion when supposedly “right wing” people support increased minimum wage or “lefties” defend the police. Maybe the author (usefully in my mind) found those characterizations both directly illuminative as well as evocative of prior eras of social stratification. Personally, while I find Marx irreparably muddle headed and recognize well that people have used his ideas as excuses (pro and con) for their own repressive attitudes, I think a knee-jerk response simply demonstrates its own lazy thinking.
- dang 6y agoThis breaks the site guidelines, which include: "Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents [1]." "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize." By that latter standard you could mentally replace the annoying terms with ones that you find more accurate, and then either respond interestingly to the GP's actual point, or perhaps not post anything (since the provocation will have gone away by itself). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [1] By "generic tangents" we're particularly talking about taking HN threads into generic ideological warfare. That's repetitive, tedious, and usually nasty.
- spamizbad 6y agoOkay so the 50 cent words made people mad so here let's do this again: Seems like people who are their own boss are not happy with the current political situation; a deep fear that they'd have to give up their business and become a regular worker.