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You cannot escape an evil government. But if you don't like the services of a private corporation, just drop it. Nobody is forcing anyone to use WhatsApp. Pleo

You cannot escape an evil government. But if you don't like the services of a private corporation, just drop it. Nobody is forcing anyone to use WhatsApp. Pleople decide to do so. We are all free, and I believe we can all affort a (very) few euros/dollars/pounds and buy Threema. Or using Signal for free. But if your government decides to bump VAT on food at 60%, you cannot escape that. Only leave the country.

MikeUt 6y ago
If these private corporations decide to censor some message, an individual "just dropping" them won't help them spread the message one bit.
corobo 6y ago
Nobody's forcing you to use whatsapp other than a little global pandemic forcing all interactions online aye Now's not the time to cut yourself off from your support network and Facebook knows it. Gross.
andrewclunn 6y ago
a country has boundaries, but multinationals know no borders.
Mediterraneo10 6y ago
Whatsapp has basically replaced the public telephone network in some countries. It is the only way that many businesses can be contacted; they won’t respond to normal phone calls or SMS, and they don’t maintain a website or Facebook page. Even some government offices will insist on being contacted via Whatsapp. So, even if you bought Threema or used Signal, you would still be quite isolated from the society around you. Once a product development by a private company becomes essentially necessary public infrastructure, obviously there are concerns.
- mixedCase 6y ago
  Then that's a problem that needs to be solved. And the only way to solve it is to have people who don't use WhatsApp and refuse to. If the business doesn't take email, SMS, phone calls, Signal or Matrix they can go without my business, and I am already reaching out to those that may be at risk. And it doesn't happen here, but if a government office were to refuse contact other than whatsapp then I would sue. Why on earth should Facebook be given the power to dictate and process how I communicate to gov offices? It's insane and requires immediate response by citizens.

MikeUt 6y ago

If these private corporations decide to censor some message, an individual "just dropping" them won't help them spread the message one bit.

corobo 6y ago

Nobody's forcing you to use whatsapp other than a little global pandemic forcing all interactions online aye Now's not the time to cut yourself off from your support network and Facebook knows it. Gross.

andrewclunn 6y ago

a country has boundaries, but multinationals know no borders.

Mediterraneo10 6y ago

Whatsapp has basically replaced the public telephone network in some countries. It is the only way that many businesses can be contacted; they won’t respond to normal phone calls or SMS, and they don’t maintain a website or Facebook page. Even some government offices will insist on being contacted via Whatsapp. So, even if you bought Threema or used Signal, you would still be quite isolated from the society around you. Once a product development by a private company becomes essentially necessary public infrastructure, obviously there are concerns.

mixedCase 6y ago
Then that's a problem that needs to be solved. And the only way to solve it is to have people who don't use WhatsApp and refuse to. If the business doesn't take email, SMS, phone calls, Signal or Matrix they can go without my business, and I am already reaching out to those that may be at risk. And it doesn't happen here, but if a government office were to refuse contact other than whatsapp then I would sue. Why on earth should Facebook be given the power to dictate and process how I communicate to gov offices? It's insane and requires immediate response by citizens.