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What do you classify as the basics of programming. for loops and if statements?

koonsolo 6y ago
Maybe I exagerated, but you can't believe that 50% of candidates have such a low capability. "How high do you score your C++ skills out of 10?" "9/10" "OK, can you explain what a pointer is?" blank stare... "no idea"
- ZephyrBlu 6y ago
  I was genuinely curious what you classed as basic programming. I would definitely consider pointers pretty fundamental if you're a C++ dev. It is pretty hard to believe that 50% of candidates don't know what a pointer is. I've barely touched C/C++ and still know what pointers are and how they work.
  - meheleventyone 6y ago
    > I've barely touched C/C++ and still know what pointers are and how they work. Congratulations you’ve successfully triggered the pedantic interviewer. You will now face six questions on pointers in C++ they just looked up each more trivia based than the last.
    - _qulr 6y ago
      Who would pass the technical screen must answer me these questions three, ere the onsite he see.
zingar 6y ago
My current employers hire +- 1/100 applicants. The vast majority fall off before even getting to a coding test. Of the last 20, most are not fluent with conditional logic and iteration, or cannot use a dictionary in an algorithm. In the most recent interview, an "experienced" React developer could not set properties on a JS object.
- jjav 6y ago
  When an interview process produces the output 'doesn't know how to do basic things' on a "vast majority" of experienced people who've been doing said things daily for years, the most obvious conclusion is that the interview process is flawed.
- ZephyrBlu 6y ago
  Why do you think this occurs? It doesn't make sense that people apply for a programming job without being able to do any programming...
  - zingar 6y ago
    I think it's because they have some success with making wordpress do what they want (after a fashion), or copy and paste some Javscript. That makes them a programmer, without knowing what they don't know, even 10 years later.

Maybe I exagerated, but you can't believe that 50% of candidates have such a low capability. "How high do you score your C++ skills out of 10?" "9/10" "OK, can you explain what a pointer is?" blank stare... "no idea"

ZephyrBlu 6y ago
I was genuinely curious what you classed as basic programming. I would definitely consider pointers pretty fundamental if you're a C++ dev. It is pretty hard to believe that 50% of candidates don't know what a pointer is. I've barely touched C/C++ and still know what pointers are and how they work.
- meheleventyone 6y ago
  > I've barely touched C/C++ and still know what pointers are and how they work. Congratulations you’ve successfully triggered the pedantic interviewer. You will now face six questions on pointers in C++ they just looked up each more trivia based than the last.
  - _qulr 6y ago
    Who would pass the technical screen must answer me these questions three, ere the onsite he see.

zingar 6y ago

My current employers hire +- 1/100 applicants. The vast majority fall off before even getting to a coding test. Of the last 20, most are not fluent with conditional logic and iteration, or cannot use a dictionary in an algorithm. In the most recent interview, an "experienced" React developer could not set properties on a JS object.

jjav 6y ago
When an interview process produces the output 'doesn't know how to do basic things' on a "vast majority" of experienced people who've been doing said things daily for years, the most obvious conclusion is that the interview process is flawed.
ZephyrBlu 6y ago
Why do you think this occurs? It doesn't make sense that people apply for a programming job without being able to do any programming...
- zingar 6y ago
  I think it's because they have some success with making wordpress do what they want (after a fashion), or copy and paste some Javscript. That makes them a programmer, without knowing what they don't know, even 10 years later.